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Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL?

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On 16077 March 1977, Raphael Hertzog wrote:

> There are quite a few software projects that have hired staff to help
> smooth the internal working of organizations, I know at least of 
> Django
> with its fellowship program:
> https://www.djangoproject.com/fundraising/#fellowship-program

> The current resources of Debian means that we can confidently hire at 
> least
> one or two fellows that would work under the direction of the DPL
> and not be in troubles for many years.

Leaving out the detail of Debian paying someone for work, this has one 
more thing that can backfire hard, as I just could witness in an 
(entirely unrelated) org: That those hired ones got more powerful than 
the actual leader. Simply by being there continuously, doing ground 
work, that the actual leader(s) over time didn't want to do. With time a 
big bunch of the work just got done, mostly leaving the radar of the 
leader then, and so they ended up controlling much, the leader being a 
figurehead in the end.

There sure are ways to work against this, but for the first few leaders 
it was just comfortable, and then on and on the next ones got less 
interested in that particular work, and it all went down. And it 
appearently is quite hard to get back in control, even if you want to, 
if you have the whole admin setup working against you, as they want to 
keep what they have.

-- 
bye, Joerg

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Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL? Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2021-03-19 10:40 +0100
  Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL? Sruthi Chandran <srud@disroot.org> - 2021-03-19 19:50 +0100
    Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL? Christian Kastner <ckk@debian.org> - 2021-03-19 23:30 +0100
  Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL? Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2021-03-19 20:20 +0100
    Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL? Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2021-03-19 23:20 +0100
  Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL? Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2021-03-19 23:30 +0100
    Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL? gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org> - 2021-03-21 01:40 +0100
      Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL? Thomas Hochstein <thh@thh.name> - 2021-03-22 23:30 +0100
  Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL? Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <odyx@debian.org> - 2021-03-22 21:40 +0100

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