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Re: rsync to NAS for backup

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On 2021-02-18 10:57, mick crane wrote:
> On 2021-02-15 12:39, mick crane wrote:
>> On 2021-02-13 19:20, David Christensen wrote:
>>> On 2021-02-13 01:27, mick crane wrote:
>>>> I made a mistake and instead of getting a PC for backup I got a NAS.
>>>> I'm struggling to get to grips with it.
>>>> If rsync from PC to NAS NAS changes the owner/group of files to 
>>>> me/users which is probably no good for backing up.
>>>> There's that problem then another that it won't let me login as root.
>>>> I asked on Synology forum but not getting a lot of joy.
>>>> https://community.synology.com/enu/forum/1/post/141137
>>>> Anybody used these things can advise ?
>>>
>>> What is the model of the Synology NAS?  What options -- CPU, memory,
>>> disks, bays, interfaces, PSU, whatever?  Support page URL?
>>>
>>>
>>> Reading the forum post, it sounds like you damaged the sudoers file.
>>> The fix would appear to be doing a Mode 2 reset per Synology's
>>> instructions:
>>>
>>> https://www.synology.com/en-global/knowledgebase/DSM/tutorial/General_Setup/How_to_reset_my_Synology_NAS 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Once the NAS has been reset, figure out how to meet your needs within
>>> the framework provided by Synology.  Follow the User Guide. Follow
>>> the Admin Guide.  Do not mess around "under the hood" with a terminal
>>> and sudo.  Make Synology earn your money.
>>>
>>>
>>> But if you want complete control, buy or build an x86_64/amd64 server,
>>> install Debian, and have at it.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> thanks for advices folks.
>> It was indeed user error with being in a rush and blurred eyesight
>> mistook "%" for "#"
>> We are making progress.
>> Appears that to retain permissions need root at both ends of rsync.
>> Have keys working with ssh for users to NAS ( not helped by default
>> permissions for .ssh files being wrong) and can su to root so now need
>> to get ssh working with keys with no passphrase for root and all
>> should be good.
>
> further to this if it helps anybody can start sshd with -d switch and 
> at same time do client with -vv switch then can see where is falling 
> down. Having telnet available helps if break sshd_config can still 
> telnet and mend it.
> mick
>
rsync is a quick & dirty backup tactic but it's got limitations.

1) files may stay around forever in the backup even if you've deleted 
them from your main computer because you don't need them.

2) you only have one copy of a file and that only lasts until the next 
rsync. This limits your ability to restore from a backup before it is 
overwritten.


Using a real backup program, which can run on you main computer to 
backup to the NAS, lets you define a retention policy so files no longer 
needed can be purged while you have multiple backups of files you are 
currently working on.

rsync is not a good substitute for backups.

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rsync to NAS for backup mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2021-02-13 10:30 +0100
  Re: rsync to NAS for backup didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2021-02-13 14:00 +0100
    Re: rsync to NAS for backup Toni Mas Soler <antomassol@protonmail.com> - 2021-02-13 14:00 +0100
  Re: rsync to NAS for backup Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2021-02-13 14:20 +0100
  Re: rsync to NAS for backup David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2021-02-13 20:30 +0100
    Re: rsync to NAS for backup Gary Dale <gary@extremeground.com> - 2021-02-18 17:20 +0100
      Re: rsync to NAS for backup Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2021-02-18 18:10 +0100
        Re: rsync to NAS for backup <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-02-18 18:30 +0100
          Re: rsync to NAS for backup Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2021-02-19 01:10 +0100
            Re: rsync to NAS for backup <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-02-19 10:00 +0100
        Re: rsync to NAS for backup <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-02-18 18:30 +0100
          Re: rsync to NAS for backup Gary Dale <gary@extremeground.com> - 2021-02-18 20:10 +0100
        Re: rsync to NAS for backup Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-02-18 18:30 +0100
    Re: rsync to NAS for backup Mirko Parthey <mirko.parthey@web.de> - 2021-02-19 16:30 +0100

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