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Re: Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...]

From Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...]
Date 2020-07-31 17:00 +0200
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On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 08:47:50AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2020-07-31 at 08:37, Reco wrote:
> >>> Quirks are fine, when things continue to work.  Your sig
> >>> separator fails completely.
> >> 
> >> "Fails" in what way?  He doesn't actually have a "signature file". 
> >> He doesn't have a signature separator ("-- \n") followed by a
> >> signature message.  He simply uses "-- t\n\n" at the end of each
> >> email.
> >> 
> >> You're not missing out on any content.
> > 
> > It's a kmail thing. mutt, being a superior MUA, is not affected.
> 
> Can you clarify both A: in what way this is kmail-specific,

kmail apparently mistakes '-- t' for the MIME-separator.

The "offending" e-mail actually look like this:

== cut ==

-- t

--gKMricLos+KVdGMg
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc"
Content-Description: Digital signature

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----

== cut ==

Where "-- t" is a signature and is contained inside of a MIME-part, and
"--gKMricLos+KVdGMg" is an actual RFC2045-compilant separator.


> and B: what behaviors you're seeing in respect to mutt that are
> relevant here?

The lack of aforementioned confusion. The signature shows as the author
intended, gpg validation happens as expected.


> I see failure on my end, with Thunderbird, which is similar to what I
> understand the problem being complained about to be. It is my
> understanding that the problem is rooted in (lack of) compliance with a
> particular RFC, such that the resulting behavior will be basically
> universal across all compliant mail clients.

RFC2045 is a standard, but we all know that certain proprietary MUA
which deliberately violates almost all standards if it comes to e-mail.
Apparently both KDE and Mozilla consider more important to be compatible
with this certain MUA than to follow actual standards closely.

Reco

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BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ... Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> - 2020-07-30 13:20 +0200
  Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ... Andrew Cater <amacater@gmail.com> - 2020-07-30 14:00 +0200
  Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ... Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-07-30 14:10 +0200
    Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ... Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-07-30 16:10 +0200
      Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ... <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-30 16:20 +0200
      Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ... Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-07-30 17:00 +0200
        Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ... <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-30 18:00 +0200
          Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ... Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-07-30 18:20 +0200
            Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ... Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-31 08:00 +0200
              Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-31 11:30 +0200
                Re: Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...] Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-07-31 12:00 +0200
                Re: Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-31 13:50 +0200
                Re: Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-07-31 14:40 +0200
                Re: Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-07-31 14:50 +0200
                Re: Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-07-31 17:00 +0200
                Re: Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-07-31 18:10 +0200
                Re: Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-07-31 13:20 +0200
                Tomas has a signature which isn't a .sig Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-07-31 17:50 +0200
                Re: [OT] Lisp is back (was: Tomas has a signature which isn't a .sig) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-07-31 18:00 +0200
                Re: [OT] Lisp is back Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2020-07-31 18:30 +0200
                Re: Tomas has a signature which isn't a .sig tomas@tuxteam.de - 2020-07-31 21:10 +0200
                Re: Tomas has a signature which isn't a .sig The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-07-31 21:30 +0200
                Re: Tomas has a signature which isn't a .sig Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-07-31 21:40 +0200
                Re: Tomas has a signature which isn't a .sig Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-07-31 21:30 +0200
                Re: Tomas has a signature which isn't a .sig <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-31 21:50 +0200
                Re: Tomas has a signature which isn't a .sig Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2020-07-31 22:00 +0200
              Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-31 12:00 +0200
              Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ... Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-07-31 12:00 +0200
                Signature not working rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-07-31 13:20 +0200
                Re: Signature not working rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-07-31 13:30 +0200
                Re: Signature not working The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-07-31 13:30 +0200
                Re: Signature not working Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-07-31 13:40 +0200
                Re: Signature not working Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-07-31 15:00 +0200
                Re: Signature not working Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-07-31 16:00 +0200
                Re: Signature not working Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-07-31 17:10 +0200
                Re: Signature not working Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-07-31 17:40 +0200
                Re: Signature not working The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-07-31 18:10 +0200
                Re: Signature not working Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-07-31 19:00 +0200
                Re: Signature not working David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-07-31 17:40 +0200
                Re: Signature not working Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-07-31 18:00 +0200
                Re: Signature not working The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-07-31 18:10 +0200
                Re: Signature not working David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-08-01 05:50 +0200
                Re: Signature not working Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-08-03 06:10 +0200
                Re: Signature not working Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-07-31 17:10 +0200
                Re: Signature not working Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-07-31 17:30 +0200
  Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ... Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2020-07-30 14:10 +0200
  Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ... <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-30 16:10 +0200
  Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ... Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> - 2020-07-31 14:00 +0200
    Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ... <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-31 15:20 +0200
      Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ... Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> - 2020-08-08 16:20 +0200
        Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ... Andrew Cater <amacater@gmail.com> - 2020-08-08 16:40 +0200
          Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ... Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 13:10 +0200

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