Re: technical terms overhaul

From	davidson <davidson@freevolt.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: technical terms overhaul
Date	2020-06-21 18:00 +0200
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On Sun, 21 Jun 2020, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 07:23:44AM -0400, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Hi also,
>> Yep, it is true that working on the symptoms does not cure the malady.
> [...]
>
> Thanks for this balanced assessment. IMO the important thing is the
> process. Of course, if we change language and nothing else then we
> have won very little.

No. Not very little. Rather, nothing at all. Indeed, you have lost
before you even begin.

Lip service is never a win. It is a defeat. A self-beclowning.

The present navel-gazing, neurotic concern over a handful of terms in
common use is just "freedom fries" by another name.

The curtain has been opening wider and wider, turning a heretofore
open secret into an outright public fact, to reveal just how little
human life---all human life---is worth to the American Powers That Be.

When you now drop lit matches into tinder, to predictably spark a
distracting culture war, you play directly into their hands.

At least one person in this thread has asked "But why now, all of a
sudden"?

"But Citizen, look yonder! A FIRE!"

> But talking about it, thinking about whether that language might be
> offensive to people in ways we can't understand (because we haven't
> their biography) is the important part.

Is this really the priority, of anyone who knows they're at war? At
war and losing ground so badly, losing lives, for so long? To argue
with their uncles about what to call a hard drive?

I beg you, think this over carefully.

-- 
@almightygenie 8 Jun 2020 | @Windex
   Thanks, Windex. That's a relief. Your drink is even more refreshing
   now that I know that it deplores racism & discrimination.
twitter.com/almightygenie/status/1270096054864809988

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technical terms overhaul Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2020-06-19 21:20 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-06-19 21:40 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-06-19 21:50 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-06-19 22:00 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-06-19 22:10 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul ghe2001 <ghe2001@protonmail.com> - 2020-06-19 22:20 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-06-19 22:20 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-06-19 22:20 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-06-20 02:40 +0200
              Re: technical terms overhaul Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-06-20 05:00 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul ghe2001 <ghe2001@protonmail.com> - 2020-06-20 05:30 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-06-20 06:20 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-06-20 09:30 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-06-20 16:00 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 16:40 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-06-20 21:10 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2020-06-20 18:00 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2020-06-22 15:50 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-22 19:20 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Paul Johnson <baloo@ursamundi.org> - 2020-06-22 19:30 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-06-19 23:50 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 18:10 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-06-19 23:50 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-06-19 22:40 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-19 23:50 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2020-06-20 03:40 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 00:00 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-06-20 12:00 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-06-20 14:10 +0200
              Re: technical terms overhaul Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-06-20 15:30 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-06-20 00:00 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-06-20 00:50 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 05:50 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-06-21 07:00 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 07:50 +0200
              Re: technical terms overhaul Stephan Seitz <stse+debian@rootsland.net> - 2020-06-21 12:20 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul fmneto@gmail.com - 2020-06-19 21:50 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-06-19 22:30 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2020-06-19 23:10 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul elvis <elvis@dogonfire.com> - 2020-06-20 16:10 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-06-20 18:10 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul Paul Johnson <baloo@ursamundi.org> - 2020-06-19 22:40 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2020-06-20 01:10 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 01:30 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 01:40 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 01:40 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2020-06-20 03:40 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 13:30 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-06-20 14:00 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 17:00 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2020-06-19 23:40 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul Andrea Borgia <andrea@borgia.bo.it> - 2020-06-20 11:30 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-19 23:50 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-06-20 01:10 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2020-06-20 01:20 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-20 03:20 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul davidson@freevolt.org - 2020-06-20 04:00 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-06-20 03:10 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2020-06-20 03:30 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul elvis <elvis@dogonfire.com> - 2020-06-20 16:10 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 19:40 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-06-20 20:20 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 22:30 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-06-20 20:50 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 22:40 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-06-20 23:20 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 23:30 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 05:40 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-06-21 08:20 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul Leslie Rhorer <lesrhorer@att.net> - 2020-06-21 09:40 +0200
              Re: technical terms overhaul "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-06-21 11:10 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 11:40 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-06-20 21:00 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul Francisco Mariano Neto <fmneto@usp.br> - 2020-06-20 21:40 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 22:50 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-06-20 21:40 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 23:00 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-06-21 08:00 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 08:40 +0200
              Re: technical terms overhaul Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-06-21 19:50 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 22:10 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-06-20 22:20 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 23:00 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 07:50 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-06-21 17:40 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul Rob van der Putten <rob@sput.nl> - 2020-06-21 12:20 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2020-06-21 13:30 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 14:00 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-06-21 14:20 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-06-21 16:50 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2020-06-21 17:50 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-06-21 16:20 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 19:00 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-06-21 19:10 +0200
              Re: technical terms overhaul Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2020-06-21 20:30 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2020-06-21 21:00 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2020-06-21 22:50 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2020-06-21 23:30 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-21 23:30 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul davidson@freevolt.org - 2020-06-21 23:40 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-06-21 19:30 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul nemo <moelmoel2714@gmail.com> - 2020-06-23 22:50 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-06-21 15:10 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-21 18:00 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 21:30 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-06-21 22:30 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-21 23:00 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 23:10 +0200

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