Re: technical terms overhaul

From	nemo <moelmoel2714@gmail.com>
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Subject	Re: technical terms overhaul
Date	2020-06-23 22:50 +0200
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On Sun, 21 Jun 2020, John Hasler wrote:

> deloptes writes:
>> Some 40-50y ago you did not like the word Neger, so it was replaced
>> with Black. You did nothing all those 50y to change the perception of
>> black. Now you have problem with the word Black
>
> Wrong.  "Nigger" (a corruption of negro) was only used by whites and
> always had derogatory connotations.

your memory is quite different from mine - the folks I grew up with 
used the word and weren't white.

>  "Black" originated with blacks and has no derogatory connotations

again, very different from my memory of my parents' generation. the 
NAACP is an organization of 'colored' people. the valorization of 
'black' came in the '60's the way 'queer' became positive.

> (except as used by racist whites who would say "nigger" if they 
> could get away with it).

in 'Huckleberry Finn' the run-away slave's name is 'Nigger Jim'. 
Conrad wrote the novel, 'The Nigger of the Narcissus' but right, 
certainly the word was not used with delicate feeling for the 
sensibilities of black people (apparently since the 1st third of the 
Nineteenth Century in the US).

> It is what blacks I know call themselves. "African-american", on the 
> other hand, is a euphemism manufactured by liberal whites.

or by Jessie Jackson: "A movement led by the Rev. Jesse Jackson to 
call blacks African-Americans has met with both rousing approval and 
deep-seated skepticism in a debate that is coming to symbolize the 
role and history of blacks in this country."
<https://www.nytimes.com/1989/01/31/us/african-american-favored-by-many-of-america-s-blacks.html>

fjd

-- 
Felmon Davis
Verbum sat sapienti

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technical terms overhaul Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2020-06-19 21:20 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-06-19 21:40 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-06-19 21:50 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-06-19 22:00 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-06-19 22:10 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul ghe2001 <ghe2001@protonmail.com> - 2020-06-19 22:20 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-06-19 22:20 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-06-19 22:20 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-06-20 02:40 +0200
              Re: technical terms overhaul Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-06-20 05:00 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul ghe2001 <ghe2001@protonmail.com> - 2020-06-20 05:30 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-06-20 06:20 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-06-20 09:30 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-06-20 16:00 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 16:40 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-06-20 21:10 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2020-06-20 18:00 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2020-06-22 15:50 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-22 19:20 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Paul Johnson <baloo@ursamundi.org> - 2020-06-22 19:30 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-06-19 23:50 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 18:10 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-06-19 23:50 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-06-19 22:40 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-19 23:50 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2020-06-20 03:40 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 00:00 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-06-20 12:00 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-06-20 14:10 +0200
              Re: technical terms overhaul Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-06-20 15:30 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-06-20 00:00 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-06-20 00:50 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 05:50 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-06-21 07:00 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 07:50 +0200
              Re: technical terms overhaul Stephan Seitz <stse+debian@rootsland.net> - 2020-06-21 12:20 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul fmneto@gmail.com - 2020-06-19 21:50 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-06-19 22:30 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2020-06-19 23:10 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul elvis <elvis@dogonfire.com> - 2020-06-20 16:10 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-06-20 18:10 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul Paul Johnson <baloo@ursamundi.org> - 2020-06-19 22:40 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2020-06-20 01:10 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 01:30 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 01:40 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 01:40 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2020-06-20 03:40 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 13:30 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-06-20 14:00 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 17:00 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2020-06-19 23:40 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul Andrea Borgia <andrea@borgia.bo.it> - 2020-06-20 11:30 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-19 23:50 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-06-20 01:10 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2020-06-20 01:20 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-20 03:20 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul davidson@freevolt.org - 2020-06-20 04:00 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-06-20 03:10 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2020-06-20 03:30 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul elvis <elvis@dogonfire.com> - 2020-06-20 16:10 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 19:40 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-06-20 20:20 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 22:30 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-06-20 20:50 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 22:40 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-06-20 23:20 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 23:30 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 05:40 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-06-21 08:20 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul Leslie Rhorer <lesrhorer@att.net> - 2020-06-21 09:40 +0200
              Re: technical terms overhaul "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-06-21 11:10 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 11:40 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-06-20 21:00 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul Francisco Mariano Neto <fmneto@usp.br> - 2020-06-20 21:40 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 22:50 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-06-20 21:40 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 23:00 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-06-21 08:00 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 08:40 +0200
              Re: technical terms overhaul Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-06-21 19:50 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 22:10 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-06-20 22:20 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 23:00 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 07:50 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-06-21 17:40 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul Rob van der Putten <rob@sput.nl> - 2020-06-21 12:20 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2020-06-21 13:30 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 14:00 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-06-21 14:20 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-06-21 16:50 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2020-06-21 17:50 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-06-21 16:20 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 19:00 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-06-21 19:10 +0200
              Re: technical terms overhaul Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2020-06-21 20:30 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2020-06-21 21:00 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2020-06-21 22:50 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2020-06-21 23:30 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-21 23:30 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul davidson@freevolt.org - 2020-06-21 23:40 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-06-21 19:30 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul nemo <moelmoel2714@gmail.com> - 2020-06-23 22:50 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-06-21 15:10 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-21 18:00 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 21:30 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-06-21 22:30 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-21 23:00 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 23:10 +0200

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