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Re: technical terms overhaul

From "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: technical terms overhaul
Date 2020-06-21 11:10 +0200
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Hi,

Leslie Rhorer wrote:
> "This statement is false" isn't really anything profound.  It does
> illustrate there can exist internally inconsistent logical entities, but
> really it is merely an artifact of the situation that just because a string
> of words is grammatically correct does not imply it has any meaning.

Yes. Antinomies are painful and the reflex to call them meaningless
is not far to seek.
But the movement of logicism tried to rule out such statements and
after decades of effort faded away, discouraged by the insight that no
list of axioms can unambiguously identify the "meaningless" statements.

In the end, we have to face the fact that there are statements which
have no truth value. And that is what i wanted to emphasize to defute
the argument that either "P" or "not P" must be true for all statements P.


>         Is this really a good discussion for the Debian User list?

Probably not. But what else shall i do with my memories form a year of
model theory lectures ?


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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technical terms overhaul Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2020-06-19 21:20 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-06-19 21:40 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-06-19 21:50 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-06-19 22:00 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-06-19 22:10 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul ghe2001 <ghe2001@protonmail.com> - 2020-06-19 22:20 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-06-19 22:20 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-06-19 22:20 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-06-20 02:40 +0200
              Re: technical terms overhaul Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-06-20 05:00 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul ghe2001 <ghe2001@protonmail.com> - 2020-06-20 05:30 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-06-20 06:20 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-06-20 09:30 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-06-20 16:00 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 16:40 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-06-20 21:10 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2020-06-20 18:00 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2020-06-22 15:50 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-22 19:20 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul Paul Johnson <baloo@ursamundi.org> - 2020-06-22 19:30 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-06-19 23:50 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 18:10 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-06-19 23:50 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-06-19 22:40 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-19 23:50 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2020-06-20 03:40 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 00:00 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-06-20 12:00 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-06-20 14:10 +0200
              Re: technical terms overhaul Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-06-20 15:30 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-06-20 00:00 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-06-20 00:50 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 05:50 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-06-21 07:00 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 07:50 +0200
              Re: technical terms overhaul Stephan Seitz <stse+debian@rootsland.net> - 2020-06-21 12:20 +0200
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  Re: technical terms overhaul Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-06-19 22:30 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2020-06-19 23:10 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul elvis <elvis@dogonfire.com> - 2020-06-20 16:10 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-06-20 18:10 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul Paul Johnson <baloo@ursamundi.org> - 2020-06-19 22:40 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2020-06-20 01:10 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 01:30 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 01:40 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 01:40 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2020-06-20 03:40 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 13:30 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-06-20 14:00 +0200
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  Re: technical terms overhaul Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2020-06-19 23:40 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul Andrea Borgia <andrea@borgia.bo.it> - 2020-06-20 11:30 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-19 23:50 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-06-20 01:10 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2020-06-20 01:20 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-20 03:20 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul davidson@freevolt.org - 2020-06-20 04:00 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-06-20 03:10 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2020-06-20 03:30 +0200
  Re: technical terms overhaul elvis <elvis@dogonfire.com> - 2020-06-20 16:10 +0200
    Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 19:40 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-06-20 20:20 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 22:30 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-06-20 20:50 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 22:40 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-06-20 23:20 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 23:30 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 05:40 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-06-21 08:20 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul Leslie Rhorer <lesrhorer@att.net> - 2020-06-21 09:40 +0200
              Re: technical terms overhaul "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-06-21 11:10 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 11:40 +0200
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        Re: technical terms overhaul Francisco Mariano Neto <fmneto@usp.br> - 2020-06-20 21:40 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 22:50 +0200
      Re: technical terms overhaul Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-06-20 21:40 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 23:00 +0200
          Re: technical terms overhaul Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-06-21 08:00 +0200
            Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-21 08:40 +0200
              Re: technical terms overhaul Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-06-21 19:50 +0200
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        Re: technical terms overhaul Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-06-20 22:20 +0200
        Re: technical terms overhaul deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 23:00 +0200
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                Re: technical terms overhaul davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-21 23:30 +0200
                Re: technical terms overhaul davidson@freevolt.org - 2020-06-21 23:40 +0200
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