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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: [OT] How to help the OP? (was: How long will this take?) |
| Date | 2020-06-12 04:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <AgH97-2N6-1@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
| References | (2 earlier) <Ag9Ka-7Ic-13@gated-at.bofh.it> <AgcoI-UF-23@gated-at.bofh.it> <Age78-1Kw-17@gated-at.bofh.it> <AgeA9-29x-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <AgeTw-2gA-19@gated-at.bofh.it> |
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On Wed 10 Jun 2020 at 15:48:01 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 09:20:50PM +0200, l0f4r0@tuta.io wrote: > > 10 juin 2020 à 20:51 de mstone@debian.org: > > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 12:02:13PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > > >> Both l0f4r0 and I have asked why the OP > > >> is zeroing the drive, but no reply yet. Perhaps you can suggest an > > >> answer. > > >> > > > I don't really care why the OP is doing it. I can think of several possibilities, but I don't see any need to argue with him over it. At some point it's reasonable to simply accept that someone is trying to do something and either help or not. I haven't seen anyone arguing with the OP, even though there are several arguments elsewhere in the thread. > > It's the usual dilemma on mailing-lists/forums: > > * Are the respondents supposed to answer the OP question directly without hindsight (potential XY problem sometimes - http://xyproblem.info/)? > > * Or are they expected to put the issue into perspective and challenge it? I know it can be frustrating because this is not always the answer we as OP want to read but it can be really instructive as we understand we were on a wrong track. > > > > I'm still divided on this subject, maybe we need both depending on the context/OP... I don't see it as a dilemma; it's been opined many a time here that people answer the question however they want. Sometimes that might involve asking questions, and on occasions a thread might end up like a round of Twenty Questions. > In general, I think that once someone's been asked a question multiple > times, especially when that question isn't really germane, it's just > rude to keep insisting on an answer. JMO. Who insisted on an answer? I didn't actually ask any direct question of the OP, and l0f4r0 merely asked out of curiosity. You seem to imply that the OP was being hectored. All my direct questions have been asked of you. Thanks for the answers. Cheers, David.
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Re: [OT] How to help the OP? (was: How long will this take?) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-06-12 04:00 +0200
Re: How long will this take? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-06-12 04:00 +0200
Re: How long will this take? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-06-12 14:00 +0200
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