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Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine

From Roland Plüss <roland@rptd.ch>
Newsgroups linux.debian.bugs.dist
Subject Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine
Date 2020-06-04 12:30 +0200
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On 6/2/20 1:05 PM, Tobias Frost wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 01, 2020 at 04:13:33PM +0200, Roland Plüss wrote:
>> On 5/31/20 9:19 AM, Tobias Frost wrote:
> (...) 
>
>>> It seems at first glance possible that both versions can be in Debian,
>>> however, the release/security team will not be happy to have both of
>>> them in a stable release, IOW, having two versions can only be a
>>> intermediate solution until all reverse dependencies of 1.6* have been
>>> updated (by patching the respective Debian packages.) More about such
>>> library transision:
>>> https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ReleaseTeam/Transitions
>>>
>> FOX-1.7 and FOX-1.6 are not compatible (well, mostly yes but in
>> important things not). That said they are different libraries with
>> separate include and library names (/usr/include/fox-1.6 vs
>> /usr/include/fox-1.7 and the same for libraries). So technically
>> applications linking against FOX-1.6 do not have to be change if FOX-1.7
>> is added on the same system (the two can coexist). But it depends if two
>> library versions of the same library are accepted even if they are disjoint.
> Those versions are not disjoint, the new version is just an evolution of the
> old one.
>
>
> Incompatible ABI changes is nothing special and happens all the time in Debian
> (called library transistios). As I tried to explain earlier, the maintainer
> duty is to resolve this by a transistion when updating the library.
>
> For you, hat means you need either 1.6 for code base or you need to help that
> all of Debian is using 1.7. You can't have both versions in Debian…
>
I don't see any way for me to get other projects to update to 1.7 . FOX
separates 1.7 from 1.6 so projects are not forced to upgrade if they
don't want to.

I can try ask the maintainer but I consider this a 0% success rate.

-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüssen
Plüss Roland

Game Development and Game Engine Technologies https://dragondreams.ch

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Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Roland Plüss <roland@rptd.ch> - 2020-05-28 16:50 +0200
  Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Boyuan Yang <byang@debian.org> - 2020-05-28 17:30 +0200
    Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Roland Plüss <roland@rptd.ch> - 2020-05-28 20:40 +0200
      Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2020-05-29 07:40 +0200
        Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Roland Plüss <roland@rptd.ch> - 2020-05-29 12:40 +0200
          Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Tobias Frost <tobi@debian.org> - 2020-05-29 22:20 +0200
            Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Roland Plüss <roland@rptd.ch> - 2020-05-30 02:50 +0200
  Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Roland Plüss <roland@rptd.ch> - 2020-05-29 15:20 +0200
    Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Tobias Frost <tobi@debian.org> - 2020-05-29 16:30 +0200
      Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Roland Plüss <roland@rptd.ch> - 2020-05-29 20:30 +0200
  Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Tobias Frost <tobi@debian.org> - 2020-05-30 14:10 +0200
    Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Roland Plüss <roland@rptd.ch> - 2020-05-30 15:10 +0200
      Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Tobias Frost <tobi@debian.org> - 2020-05-30 17:00 +0200
        Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Roland Plüss <roland@rptd.ch> - 2020-05-30 19:00 +0200
          Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Tobias Frost <tobi@debian.org> - 2020-05-31 09:30 +0200
            Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Roland Plüss <roland@rptd.ch> - 2020-06-01 16:20 +0200
              Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Tobias Frost <tobi@debian.org> - 2020-06-02 13:10 +0200
                Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Roland Plüss <roland@rptd.ch> - 2020-06-04 12:30 +0200
                Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Tobias Frost <tobi@debian.org> - 2020-06-04 13:00 +0200
            Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Roland Plüss <roland@rptd.ch> - 2020-06-04 18:40 +0200
              Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Tobias Frost <tobi@debian.org> - 2020-06-04 20:50 +0200
            Bug#961738: RFS: dragengine/1.1 -- Drag[en]gine Game Engine Roland Plüss <roland@rptd.ch> - 2020-06-04 18:50 +0200

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