Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

From	Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...
Date	2020-09-26 16:50 +0200
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mick crane wrote: 
> 
> When all this internet kicked off I thought anybody could have a go but
> apparently you need to be with a provider.

If you have enough money, skill, and time you can be your own
ISP.

The nature of "ISP" is in the first word, "Internet". It
requires you to be connected to one or more other networks. At
normal household scales, it is most cost-effective to buy that
connectivity from an entity that has infrastructure in your
area.

In the early 1990s a single T1 (1.54Mb/s bidirectional) to a larger
provide, a router, a server and a set of modems connected to phone lines
was all you needed to set up shop as a local ISP. The T1 might be 3 or 4
thousand dollars a month, so you needed a few hundred customers to break
even. If your average customer connected at 9600 baud and was online for
four hours a day, and a day is really only 12 hours long to account for
peak usage patterns, a modem and phone line could support 3 customers
and you could hang 160 modems off of that T1, so you would max out at
about 600 customers before you started getting enough complaints about
speed that they looked for someone else.

For the USA, I have great connectivity: there are three ISPs
willing to deliver consumer-class gigabit links to my house, so
I pay about 5x what I paid in 2000 for a connection 34000x
faster. And all the other services that an ISP would offer me, I
handle myself with Debian machines.

-dsr-

Thread

crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> - 2020-09-24 15:10 +0200
  Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-09-24 15:30 +0200
  Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Thomas Pircher <thp+debian@p5r.uk> - 2020-09-24 15:40 +0200
    Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-09-24 18:00 +0200
    Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> - 2020-09-24 18:00 +0200
      Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Thomas Pircher <thp+debian@p5r.uk> - 2020-09-24 18:30 +0200
      Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-09-24 19:10 +0200
        Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> - 2020-09-29 16:00 +0200
          Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-09-29 16:50 +0200
          Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-09-29 16:50 +0200
      Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-09-24 20:30 +0200
        Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-25 01:00 +0200
          Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2020-09-25 11:40 +0200
            Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-26 04:50 +0200
            Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> - 2020-09-29 16:00 +0200
              Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> - 2020-09-29 16:30 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-10-01 09:00 +0200
          Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-09-25 13:50 +0200
            Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> - 2020-09-25 14:00 +0200
              Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-09-25 15:10 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-09-25 15:30 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-09-25 16:00 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-09-25 18:10 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-09-25 18:20 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-09-25 19:40 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-09-25 20:20 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-09-26 00:10 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-09-26 00:30 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-09-26 00:50 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-09-25 19:00 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-09-26 00:20 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-09-26 00:50 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-09-26 01:00 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2020-09-26 02:00 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-09-26 16:50 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-09-25 16:30 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-09-25 17:00 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-09-25 17:30 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-09-25 17:40 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-09-25 17:10 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2020-09-25 18:30 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-25 20:00 +0200
        Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> - 2020-09-25 13:50 +0200
          Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-09-25 15:00 +0200
          Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-09-25 15:50 +0200
            Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> - 2020-09-26 14:20 +0200
              Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-09-26 22:20 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> - 2020-09-29 15:50 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-29 16:50 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY <noon@mykolab.com> - 2020-10-01 13:30 +0200
          Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-09-25 16:50 +0200

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