Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

From	Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...
Date	2020-09-25 17:00 +0200
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On Friday 25 September 2020 10:23:43 Michael Stone wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 09:01:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >Your paranoia is excessive. I have 5 machines online ATM, but they
> > are all on a local network in the 1902.168.xx.xx block, which is NOT
> > routable from the internet but are NAT'd to my net address by having
> > such a setup in a router running dd-wrt. In nearly 2 decades, no one
> > has come into my systems from the internet that I didn't give the
> > credentials to do so.
>
> You post this all the time, but it's irrelevant at best and misleading
> at worst. On a default debian system these days an external firewall
> is basically a noop because there are no services listening. The
> attack vector in modern environments is much more likely to be client
> exploits (e.g., web browser) and a perimeter firewall adds zero
> protection from that threat.
>
> And, honestly, most people who are compromised have no clue that they
> are unless someone tells them.
>
> Telling people that all they need to do is install a perimeter
> firewall and then they're secure is simply wrong.

I usually give the OP credit for not clicking on the links he runs across 
that aren't on the up and up. I dunno, but the odor about them seems to 
be warning enough for me.  If OTOH, the OP succumbs, then he/she is 
going to get bit eventually and there is little you or I can do to stop 
it.

It all boils down to a believeing in TANSTAAFL. We both obviously have 
experiences going back decades, and thats my experience. I find 
TANSTAAFL to be a law that you can't break if you tried. Like a western 
actor whose real name was Marion Morrison once said, stupid should hurt. 
What he didn't say was that it also should teach. And I don't believe we 
can argue about that.

Stay safe and well Michael.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> - 2020-09-24 15:10 +0200
  Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-09-24 15:30 +0200
  Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Thomas Pircher <thp+debian@p5r.uk> - 2020-09-24 15:40 +0200
    Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-09-24 18:00 +0200
    Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> - 2020-09-24 18:00 +0200
      Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Thomas Pircher <thp+debian@p5r.uk> - 2020-09-24 18:30 +0200
      Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-09-24 19:10 +0200
        Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> - 2020-09-29 16:00 +0200
          Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-09-29 16:50 +0200
          Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-09-29 16:50 +0200
      Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-09-24 20:30 +0200
        Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-25 01:00 +0200
          Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2020-09-25 11:40 +0200
            Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-26 04:50 +0200
            Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> - 2020-09-29 16:00 +0200
              Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> - 2020-09-29 16:30 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-10-01 09:00 +0200
          Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-09-25 13:50 +0200
            Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> - 2020-09-25 14:00 +0200
              Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-09-25 15:10 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-09-25 15:30 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-09-25 16:00 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-09-25 18:10 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-09-25 18:20 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-09-25 19:40 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-09-25 20:20 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-09-26 00:10 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-09-26 00:30 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-09-26 00:50 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-09-25 19:00 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-09-26 00:20 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-09-26 00:50 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-09-26 01:00 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2020-09-26 02:00 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-09-26 16:50 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-09-25 16:30 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-09-25 17:00 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-09-25 17:30 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-09-25 17:40 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-09-25 17:10 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2020-09-25 18:30 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-25 20:00 +0200
        Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> - 2020-09-25 13:50 +0200
          Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-09-25 15:00 +0200
          Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-09-25 15:50 +0200
            Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> - 2020-09-26 14:20 +0200
              Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-09-26 22:20 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> - 2020-09-29 15:50 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-29 16:50 +0200
                Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY <noon@mykolab.com> - 2020-10-01 13:30 +0200
          Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ... Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-09-25 16:50 +0200

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