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Re: Towards a custom personalized Debian installer

From Andrew Cater <amacater@gmail.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Towards a custom personalized Debian installer
Date 2020-09-18 20:10 +0200
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http://flosslinuxblog.blogspot.com/2020/07/a-quick-post-on-how-to-use-jigdo-to.html
- was a relatively quick attempt on my part to show how to use jigdo-lite,
a mirror and a USB stick. If you use a wired connection to do this, you
don't necessarily need non-free firmware.

Firmware - see
https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware#Firmware_during_the_installation

https://cloud.debian.org/images/release/current/amd64/jigdo-16G/ is the
current directory with the two files. If you download both, it's only about
50M and an internet connection to your nearest Debian mirror (and the
download can be restarted if interrupted.)

Hope this helps, as ever,

Andy C.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 1:40 PM Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:

> On 09/18/2020 07:29 AM, Andrew Cater wrote:
> > Richard (et. al.)
> >
> > If you want an install without any Internet connectivity - you have one
> > really good choice - but you may need  someone to provide you with media
> > made on another Debian machine.
>
> My policy is to purchase at lease 1 complete DVD set of each Debian
> release (typically not the initial release). I have several machines,
> with one totally isolated from all others and dedicated to experiments.
>
> A link to instructions for creating that media? TIA
>
> >
> > The jigdo file which produces a 16GB file for writing to a USB stick is,
> > essentially, the first three DVDs plus a bit on one medium. It's directly
> > bootable on a machine that supports boot from USB. it will boot in legacy
> > (non-UEFI) and UEFI mode. It's ideal. The one thing it doesn't contain is
> > firmware - but that can be written to another USB stick.One small, cheap,
> > old stick, one newer stick and some internet connectivity _somewhere_ and
> > you can do it.
>
> Sounds like it was designed for someone more on the edge than I. I
> rarely need anything not on DVD1.
>
> >
> > That way, everything is met. I have asked Sledge if he would be prepared
> to
> > produce _another_ non-free image in 16GB size but he replied that it
> wasn't
> > particularly worth the increased bother and storage size of maintaining
> the
> > 16GB file for every point release when it could readily be regenerated.
>
> I *agree*. What is needed is a set of instructions suitable for a
> minimally competent Linux user.
>
> >
> > The alternatives are the BluRay media (or possibly the debian-edu media)
> > both of which are around the same size.
> >
> > This isn't rocket science - but yours is a distinct edge case.
>
> Before I retired, several employers found that a valuable trait.
>
> > Installs to
> > a partition and using the partition to bootstrap a second install are
> > likely to be tested by only one person - yourself - and you would
> probably
> > need to submit very detailed bug reports and a significantly compelling
> use
> > case to achieve major changes.
>
> Any bug reports would likely be against documentation rather than
> against the software itself.
>
> >
> > All the very best, as ever,
> >
> > Andy C
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:21 AM Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 09/17/2020 05:14 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
> >>> Richard Owlett composed on 2020-09-17 04:25 (UTC-0500):
> >>>
> >>>> I unsuccessfully tried to us use debootstrap several years ago.
> >>>> Right now I specifically want to use the normal Debian installer on an
> >>>> editable file system.
> >>>
> >>> Did you happen to notice what I wrote in
> >>> <https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/09/msg00441.html>?
> >>
> >> Yes.
> >> I think I have a counter example {haven't verified no operator error
> >> involved} but I've been working on another fundamental issue --
> >> understanding the installer.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>

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Towards a custom personalized Debian installer Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-16 13:30 +0200
  Re: Towards a custom personalized Debian installer David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2020-09-17 04:10 +0200
  Re: Towards a custom personalized Debian installer Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-09-17 10:10 +0200
    Re: Towards a custom personalized Debian installer Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-17 11:30 +0200
      Re: Towards a custom personalized Debian installer rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-09-17 13:50 +0200
      Re: Towards a custom personalized Debian installer Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-09-18 00:20 +0200
        Re: Towards a custom personalized Debian installer Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-18 12:10 +0200
        Re: Towards a custom personalized Debian installer Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-18 12:30 +0200
          Re: Towards a custom personalized Debian installer Andrew Cater <amacater@gmail.com> - 2020-09-18 14:30 +0200
            Re: Towards a custom personalized Debian installer Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-18 15:50 +0200
              Re: Towards a custom personalized Debian installer "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-09-18 17:20 +0200
                Re: Bad homepage reference for xorriso "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-09-20 11:30 +0200
              Re: Towards a custom personalized Debian installer David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-18 17:30 +0200
              Re: Towards a custom personalized Debian installer Andrew Cater <amacater@gmail.com> - 2020-09-18 20:10 +0200

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