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Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages due to rename

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On Tue 12 May 2020 at 12:12:33 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2020-05-07 18:24:59 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Wed 06 May 2020 at 12:31:35 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > I use unstable. I doubt that packages get renamed in stable
> > > (except between full upgrades, where the issue has already
> > > been solved with the oldlibs section).
> > 
> > I don't understand the relevance of oldlibs: only one of the packages
> > that I removed was in that section, imagemagick, which gets pulled in
> > under that name by inkscape as a Recommends.
> 
> oldlibs was mentioned by Sven Joachim as solving the issue
> automatically (at least with apt).
> 
> I also have a Debian/stable machine, but no manually installed
> packages were renamed in the upgrade to buster, so I could not
> check... IIRC, I've never noticed any issue when upgrading this
> Debian/stable machine anyway.

https://wiki.debian.org/RenamingPackages

I think I understand how that's expected to work now. Checking on two
top-level packages I have removed (cryptsetup/pdftk), I notice that
though they are in Sections admin/text in the Packages list, their
internal Section is oldlibs in buster versions of control; control
is not a file I normally peruse, but deborphan does, I presume.

What I don't know is when this Section category is acted upon if
I do nothing. Do the transitional packages last until the next
full release? (They certainly haven't disappeared in buster's
point releases.)

But in any case, you can see that my writing a script for removing
packages like cryptsetup and pdftk would not be very productive.
My little manual cleanup looks more like mere impatience.

Cheers,
David.

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cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages due  to rename Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2020-04-21 17:20 +0200
  Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages  due to rename nito@dismail.de - 2020-04-21 17:50 +0200
    Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages  due to rename Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2020-04-21 18:00 +0200
      Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages due to rename deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-04-21 21:10 +0200
        Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages  due to rename Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2020-04-22 01:30 +0200
          Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages due to rename deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-04-22 08:40 +0200
            Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages  due to rename Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2020-04-22 10:10 +0200
              Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages due to rename deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-04-22 22:30 +0200
            Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages  due to rename Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2020-05-14 11:20 +0200
  Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages  due to rename Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> - 2020-04-21 19:10 +0200
  Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages  due to rename Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-22 11:40 +0200
    Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages  due to rename Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2020-04-22 12:30 +0200
      Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages  due to rename David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-04-22 23:10 +0200
        Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages  due to rename Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2020-04-23 03:00 +0200
          Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages  due to rename David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-04-23 21:10 +0200
            Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages  due to rename Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2020-04-24 21:10 +0200
              Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages  due to rename David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-04-25 06:50 +0200
                Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages  due to rename Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2020-04-25 21:50 +0200
                Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages  due to rename David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-04-28 17:30 +0200
                Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages  due to rename Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2020-05-06 12:40 +0200
                Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages  due to rename David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-05-08 01:30 +0200
                Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages  due to rename Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2020-05-12 12:20 +0200
                Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages  due to rename David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-05-13 17:50 +0200
                Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages  due to rename Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-05-14 07:50 +0200

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