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Re: Backup ideas

From Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Backup ideas
Date 2020-04-28 18:20 +0200
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On Ma, 28 apr 20, 11:43:22, Default User wrote:
> > Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> wrote:
> 
> 1 - First, regarding:
> > [vast mounts of quoted text snipped - please don't quote too much!]
> 
> I didn't realize some trimming might be needed.  I guess I just
> figured you can't scroll through an email for information that has
> been trimmed.  And on some lists, like OpenBSD and Arch, people will
> actually yell at you for trimming or not providing enough information.

Ideally every message should be as short as possible while still being 
as much as possible self-contained.

Proper attribution of quotes is also much appreciated.
 
> And, I always worry that today's free/libre can be tomorrow's
> proprietary/unfree.

See "Tentacles of Evil" test. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Free_Software_Guidelines#debian-legal_tests_for_DFSG_compliance

Short version: once a software has been released under a free software 
license not even the author can change it. They can only change the 
license for future versions. Anybody else is free to fork from the last 
free version.

This is not just theoretical, it has already happened in several cases 
and will likely happen again if the software in question has any 
significant user base.
 
> But off-site backups require a place for them to be, the ongoing
> effort of getting them there (and back, in a timely manner, if
> needed), and some cost involved.  And the storage place is also
> subject to "disasters" , or just going out of business overnight.

At the same time with a "local" disaster? Highly unlikely.

> On-line backups have the same problems, in addition to the fact that
> once your data is "out there", even if it is encrypted, it can be
> "cracked" by governments, corporations, or individuals, at their
> leisure.

[citation needed]

With current encryption methods it's probably easier to compromise the 
source computer instead. Or https://xkcd.com/538/.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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(none) Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2020-04-22 23:00 +0200
  Re: David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2020-04-23 12:00 +0200
  Re: "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2020-04-23 16:30 +0200
  Re: David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-04-24 00:10 +0200
    Re: Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2020-04-24 03:00 +0200
      Re: David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-04-24 11:00 +0200
      Backup ideas Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-04-24 17:40 +0200
        Re: Backup ideas Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-04-24 18:30 +0200
          Re: Backup ideas Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2020-04-28 17:50 +0200
            Re: Backup ideas Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-28 18:20 +0200
              Re: Backup ideas Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2020-04-28 20:30 +0200
                Re: Backup ideas Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2020-04-28 21:20 +0200
                Re: Backup ideas David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-04-28 22:30 +0200
                Re: Backup ideas Bob Weber <bobrweber@gmail.com> - 2020-04-28 22:50 +0200
            Re: Backup ideas Bob Weber <bobrweber@gmail.com> - 2020-04-28 20:20 +0200
            Re: Backup ideas Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-04-28 22:40 +0200
              Re: Backup ideas Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-04-29 06:40 +0200
            Re: Backup ideas Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-04-29 06:30 +0200
            Re: Backup ideas Alessandro Baggi <alessandro.baggi@gmail.com> - 2020-05-01 12:40 +0200
              Re: Backup ideas Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2020-05-04 03:30 +0200

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