Re: What are the odds of this happening?

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Date	2016-05-07 21:56 -0700
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Subject	Re: What are the odds of this happening?
From	ANMCCAFF@alum.wpi.edu

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On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 7:59:43 PM UTC-7, Jeff Wisnia wrote:
> ANMCCAFF@alum.wpi.edu wrote:
> 
> >
> > Not necessarily imperfections.  Most locks with multiple pins
> > in each slot can be opened with several different keys.  This
> > is one of the ways some master key systems work.
> 
> Yes, but I don't think that would apply to automobile locks. I've never 
> heard of a master key for those.

Nahh, they're actually dirt common, although generally just called "key" as opposed to "valet key."  A lot of cars come with two keys, one that will open the drivers side door, and work the igition, but nothing else, and another tha'll open everything.  I've also seen keys that will open the car, but won't start it.

True masters for multiple cars aren't unheard of, either.  Ford's Vehicle Special Order program will (or would, dunno if it's still around) master key a whole fleet, sometimes with different sub-masters.  So, for instance, a dock worker could open the box of a delivery truck, but not start it, and a contact truck could have a limited number of keys that would let it work with disabled vehicles even if the driver wasn't present with his key.
>
> You just reminded me that some 60 years ago I bet my college roommates 
> that I could deduce the master key coding for our dormitory by taking a 
> room key and one by one filling its notches with solder and then filing 
> the solder down until the key would turn the lock.
> 
> If I filed off all the solder in that notch I filed the key metal itself 
> until I got down to where the lock would open again and then went on to 
> the "master key depth" of the next notch.
> 
> It took forever to get there, but I won the bet, because the homemade 
> master key opened the other dorm room doors.

When I was a servin' o' the Raygun, I was once in a unit that had a beautifully master-keyed building, at least in theory; in practice something like 30 percent of the locks were all on the master only.  It was a real mess to fix.

ANMcC

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What are the odds of this happening? Jeff Wisnia <jwisnia18DUMPTHIS@comcast.net> - 2016-05-02 23:06 -0400
  Re: What are the odds of this happening? ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) - 2016-05-02 23:25 -0400
  Re: What are the odds of this happening? Bill Turlock <BillTurlock@turlock.net> - 2016-05-02 23:15 -0700
  Re: What are the odds of this happening? "Lesmond" <lesmond@verizon.net> - 2016-05-03 07:49 -0400
    Re: What are the odds of this happening? Bill Turlock <BillTurlock@turlock.net> - 2016-05-03 11:31 -0700
      Re: What are the odds of this happening? "Lesmond" <lesmond@verizon.net> - 2016-05-03 15:12 -0400
      Re: What are the odds of this happening? Derek J Decker <derek@decker.net> - 2016-05-04 14:55 +0000
      Re: What are the odds of this happening? Lee Ayrton <layrton481@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 01:06 -0400
        Re: What are the odds of this happening? Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 23:40 -0700
        Re: What are the odds of this happening? Bill Turlock <BillTurlock@turlock.net> - 2016-05-05 10:03 -0700
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      Re: What are the odds of this happening? "Lesmond" <lesmond@verizon.net> - 2016-05-04 19:24 -0400
  Re: What are the odds of this happening? hymie! <hymie@lactose.homelinux.net> - 2016-05-03 12:34 +0000
    Re: What are the odds of this happening? Jeff Wisnia <Jwisnia18@DUMPTHIScomcast.net> - 2016-05-03 18:14 -0400
      Re: What are the odds of this happening? Bill Turlock <BillTurlock@turlock.net> - 2016-05-03 15:34 -0700
        Re: What are the odds of this happening? Jeff Wisnia <Jwisnia18@DUMPTHIScomcast.net> - 2016-05-03 18:52 -0400
        Re: What are the odds of this happening? Les Albert <lalbert1@aol.com> - 2016-05-03 15:53 -0700
    Re: What are the odds of this happening? ANMCCAFF@alum.wpi.edu - 2016-05-06 18:31 -0700
      Re: What are the odds of this happening? Jeff Wisnia <jwisnia18DUMPTHIS@comcast.net> - 2016-05-07 22:59 -0400
        Re: What are the odds of this happening? Les Albert <lalbert1@aol.com> - 2016-05-07 20:20 -0700
          Re: What are the odds of this happening? Lee Ayrton <layrton481@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 15:49 -0400
            Re: What are the odds of this happening? Les Albert <lalbert1@aol.com> - 2016-05-09 13:12 -0700
              Re: What are the odds of this happening? Lee Ayrton <layrton481@gmail.com> - 2016-05-10 10:53 -0400
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Les Albert <lalbert1@aol.com> - 2016-05-10 08:16 -0700
              Re: What are the odds of this happening? hymie! <hymie@lactose.homelinux.net> - 2016-05-10 15:49 +0000
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Les Albert <lalbert1@aol.com> - 2016-05-10 10:05 -0700
        Re: What are the odds of this happening? ANMCCAFF@alum.wpi.edu - 2016-05-07 21:56 -0700
          Re: What are the odds of this happening? Jeff Wisnia <jwisnia18DUMPTHIS@comcast.net> - 2016-05-08 16:14 -0400
            Re: What are the odds of this happening? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-05-08 14:37 -0600
              Re: What are the odds of this happening? ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) - 2016-05-08 19:44 -0400
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Les Albert <lalbert1@aol.com> - 2016-05-08 18:32 -0700
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 20:48 -0500
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Les Albert <lalbert1@aol.com> - 2016-05-08 20:15 -0700
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Les Albert <lalbert1@aol.com> - 2016-05-08 20:23 -0700
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? ANMCCAFF@alum.wpi.edu - 2016-05-08 20:42 -0700
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Les Albert <lalbert1@aol.com> - 2016-05-08 20:48 -0700
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? ANMCCAFF@alum.wpi.edu - 2016-05-08 21:18 -0700
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Les Albert <lalbert1@aol.com> - 2016-05-08 22:31 -0700
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Bill Turlock <BillTurlock@turlock.net> - 2016-05-09 10:05 -0700
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? "Lesmond" <lesmond@verizon.net> - 2016-05-11 09:20 -0400
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) - 2016-05-09 01:54 -0400
          Re: What are the odds of this happening? "Lesmond" <lesmond@verizon.net> - 2016-05-11 09:08 -0400
            Re: What are the odds of this happening? Charles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net> - 2016-05-15 20:40 -0700
              Re: What are the odds of this happening? "Lesmond" <lesmond@verizon.net> - 2016-05-16 00:41 -0400
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) - 2016-05-16 01:38 -0400
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 08:18 -0500
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) - 2016-05-16 11:57 -0400
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 11:57 -0500
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Les Albert <lalbert1@aol.com> - 2016-05-16 14:04 -0700
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 16:17 -0500
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Les Albert <lalbert1@aol.com> - 2016-05-16 14:31 -0700
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Jeff Wisnia <Jwisnia18@DUMPTHIScomcast.net> - 2016-05-16 18:50 -0400
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Les Albert <lalbert1@aol.com> - 2016-05-16 16:19 -0700
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Howard <howrd223@htmail.com> - 2016-05-17 01:02 +0000
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 20:17 -0500
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Howard <howrd223@htmail.com> - 2016-05-17 12:18 +0000
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> - 2016-05-17 08:09 -0500
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) - 2016-05-17 13:29 -0400
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                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Bill Turlock <BillTurlock@turlock.net> - 2016-05-17 08:28 -0700
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Bill Turlock <BillTurlock@turlock.net> - 2016-05-17 08:33 -0700
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Bill Turlock <BillTurlock@turlock.net> - 2016-05-17 08:22 -0700
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                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-05-19 08:52 -0600
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 10:18 -0500
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Jeff Wisnia <Jwisnia18@DUMPTHIScomcast.net> - 2016-05-16 18:48 -0400
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? "Lesmond" <lesmond@verizon.net> - 2016-05-16 18:51 -0400
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Charles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net> - 2016-07-23 09:19 -0700
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? "Lesmond" <lesmond@verizon.net> - 2016-07-23 19:09 -0400
              Re: What are the odds of this happening? ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) - 2016-05-16 01:02 -0400
        Re: What are the odds of this happening? ANMCCAFF@alum.wpi.edu - 2016-05-07 21:59 -0700
          Re: What are the odds of this happening? Bill Turlock <BillTurlock@turlock.net> - 2016-05-08 11:36 -0700
            Re: What are the odds of this happening? Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 16:29 -0500
        Re: What are the odds of this happening? hymie! <hymie@lactose.homelinux.net> - 2016-05-09 13:35 +0000
          Re: What are the odds of this happening? Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 08:45 -0500
        Re: What are the odds of this happening? "Lesmond" <lesmond@verizon.net> - 2016-05-11 09:00 -0400
          Re: What are the odds of this happening? Jeff Wisnia <Jwisnia18@DUMPTHIScomcast.net> - 2016-05-11 14:36 -0400
            Re: What are the odds of this happening? Les Albert <lalbert1@aol.com> - 2016-05-11 11:41 -0700
            Re: What are the odds of this happening? "Lesmond" <lesmond@verizon.net> - 2016-05-11 14:49 -0400
              Re: What are the odds of this happening? Jeff Wisnia <Jwisnia18@DUMPTHIScomcast.net> - 2016-05-11 17:39 -0400
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-05-15 18:08 +0100
                Re: What are the odds of this happening? Jeff Wisnia <Jwisnia18@DUMPTHIScomcast.net> - 2016-05-18 11:31 -0400
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