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Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS

From "%" <persent@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.checkmate, alt.usenet.kooks
Subject Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS
Date 2016-04-28 17:39 -0700
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vallor wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 15:50:33 -0700, % wrote:
> 
>> Nadegda wrote:
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 15:24:48 -0700, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In article <nftvio$j5g$24@dont-email.me>, nad318b404@gmail.invalid
>>>> says...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 14:22:59 -0700, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> In article <nftsc5$j5g$14@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> nad318b404@gmail.invalid says...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 22:34:47 -0700, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In article <nfrr92$j5g$4@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>> nad318b404@gmail.invalid says...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 01:52:05 +0000, vallor wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 18:38:20 -0700, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <dod70gF6n2dU11@mid.individual.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>> vallor@cultnix.org says...
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 12:48:01 -0700, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/27/2016 10:09 AM, "Fakey's" dogwhistle holder living
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 15206-2117 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:04:41 -0400, Colonel Edmund J.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Burke <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/27/2016 9:57 AM, "Fakey's" dogwhistle holder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 12:46:10 -0400, Colonel Edmund J.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Burke <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/27/2016 9:44 AM, "Fakey's" dogwhistle holder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 12:04:29 -0400, Colonel Edmund J.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Burke <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give 'em some education and turn 'em into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republicans. YAY!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give people proper education and the next step is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> socialism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D'OH!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU COMMIE FAG!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communism isn't socialism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also, marx and engels were correct and are only proven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more correct with each passing day, these days.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does that frighten you, that systems of economics are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to be modeled and predicted so long ago?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marxism was disproved of late.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when did that happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitalism is the only system that prevails.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL  until when?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until socialism, that is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well, because the "haves" decided to make education a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commodity and not a right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because its bylaws flow in the same vein as that of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> human selfishness.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> human selfishness is what, in turn, destroys capitalism
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eventually.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are proven wrong!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not really.  you are proven to not understand marx and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engels' theories about the progression of economic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> systems based on actual scientific and statistical data.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You sound like a punk kid fresh outa political science
>>>>>>>>>>>>> class, junior.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> And there is no way in hell that you have a real
>>>>>>>>>>>> commission. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Because you sound like you've never been within five miles
>>>>>>>>>>>> from a political classroom.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> But let's exercise that noggin of yours:  By what mechanism
>>>>>>>>>>>> does Capitalism (of any sort) ensure that all people born
>>>>>>>>>>>> into (say) this USA of ours, have a job?  Or for that
>>>>>>>>>>>> matter, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> any kind of income?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Remember, automation is taking over, jobs have been
>>>>>>>>>>>> offshored. We've had decades of "cut taxes on the rich to
>>>>>>>>>>>> make new jobs", and that's clearly not helping.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hell, under Bush, how many bridges collapsed in the U.S.?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> As a bona-fide Real Capitalist(tm), I say to you: we're in
>>>>>>>>>>>> for a rough ride if we don't change course.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AFe--d-zMA
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [groups snecked]
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Moore did a fascinating film on the pitfalls of
>>>>>>>>>>> capitalism. All of man's governing machinations are subject
>>>>>>>>>>> to corruption sooner or later, and ours is clearly way off
>>>>>>>>>>> course. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Small business capitalism is great.  Even medium-sized.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It's the megacorps that continue to mess things up.  Some of
>>>>>>>>>> that is the MIC, as Eisenhower warned about.  Some of it is
>>>>>>>>>> too much influence on what passes for "the press" in our
>>>>>>>>>> country nowadays. The Overton window is way out of wack --
>>>>>>>>>> yet it's never enough, and the way-right folks continue to
>>>>>>>>>> "appeal to the refs".
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> There was this guy once that coined a term for when
>>>>>>>>>> corporations ran the government, which he thought was a good
>>>>>>>>>> idea.  His name was Mussolini, and the word was "fascism".
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> After all, the trains ran on time, right?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> What good does that do you when the destination is a place
>>>>>>>>> like Auschwitz?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Time to throw the switch and reroute this country away from
>>>>>>>>> Right Wing Nutlandia and towards Sanders's Scandinavia West.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Another round of "campaign finance reform," after Citizens
>>>>>>>> United? Politicians owe their very existence to the corrupted
>>>>>>>> system. They're not about to give the subject anything but lip
>>>>>>>> service. The Government has been bought and paid for by
>>>>>>>> scumbags like the Koch brothers and all their
>>>>>>>> intricately-weaved organizations and other evil entities.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If so; if the soapbox and ballot box currently being tried don't
>>>>>>> work; then I guess it would be time for that Constitutional
>>>>>>> convention someone mentioned recently, even though convening one
>>>>>>> would mean opening Pandora's box.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Fat chance that THAT would happen.  The Rich Elite have invested
>>>>>> far too much money and effort into corrupting the current system
>>>>>> to their liking.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> How do you fix that without the shit seriously hitting the
>>>>>>>> fan? If that happens, a stroke of the pen and COG, martial
>>>>>>>> law, and FEMA camps are ready to lock up anybody "they" see
>>>>>>>> fit. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Er, what? Don't tell me you, apparently a liberal, bought into
>>>>>>> that right- wing wackjob Alex Jones's Jade Helm konspiracy
>>>>>>> kookery? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Alex Jones is indeed, a whackjob, but he's learned how to profit
>>>>>> from it.  Having said that, *some* of the things he says have
>>>>>> *some* credibility.  If you dig into the Continuity of
>>>>>> Government (COG) plans already in place, you'll see that all it
>>>>>> takes is a stroke of a pen to rock everybody's world.  What
>>>>>> happens after that, is anybody's guess, but the military will
>>>>>> have the "right" to barge into our homes without a warrant if
>>>>>> they're directed to, and haul off anybody who happens to be on
>>>>>> the wrong list.  I think it's a safe assumption that being too
>>>>>> outspoken about the Government could land someone on that list.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not saying any of this is going to happen, but the process is
>>>>>> already in place.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The notion that the Constitution still gives us any rights is
>>>>>>>> an illusion that only exists until someone gives the go ahead
>>>>>>>> to take them away.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And that would be the time to reach for the *fourth* box.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That's when you have to decide to "cooperate" with the
>>>>>> "authorities," or go out in a blaze of glory, and take a few of
>>>>>> 'em with you.  It's a no- win situation either way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah, that's what happened to ol' George Washington and his crew
>>>>> -- they "went out in a blaze of glory and took a few redcoats
>>>>> with 'em". 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Where did you go to school that you learned this bit of our
>>>>> nation's proud history, kook?
>>>> 
>>>> You're talking about history, Ko0kie.  I'm talking about the
>>>> future. George Washington wasn't facing down a firmly entrenched
>>>> army with the home court advantage, and the high tech implements
>>>> of destruction that our Government has at it's disposal.
>>> 
>>> That firmly entrenched army you speak of took, to the last person, a
>>> loyalty oath to defend the Constitution against enemies "foreign and
>>> domestic". Large chunks of it ought logically to be on *our* side
>>> against any attempt to usurp our Constitutional rights. Any
>>> President or other leader that tries the sort of stuff Alex Jones
>>> rants and raves about will quickly find his forces on one side of a
>>> civil war, and hopefully the outnumbered side at that.
>>> 
>>> The only weapons systems with tightly centralized control,
>>> meanwhile, are the nukes with their arming codes. Whichever side
>>> has the "football" will have those weapons -- but will they dare
>>> use them inside their own borders? Any victory obtained by such
>>> means would clearly be Pyrrhic. One hopes sanity would prevail and
>>> those bombs would stay safe and snug in their silos for the
>>> duration. 
>>> 
>>> I'd actually be more worried about the rank-and-file civilian
>>> *police*, who don't seem particularly oathbound to the Constitution
>>> *or* particularly loyal to the average Joe-on-the-street. These
>>> days they're equipped with all kinds of military-surplus hardware,
>>> too. Though in a fight between those goofs and the Army I'd bet on
>>> the Army. 
>>> 
>>>> BTW... your tax dollars helped arm our potential enemy with the
>>>> biggest and badest armaments in the world, and the planes and
>>>> rockets to deliver them.  How would you win against a military
>>>> force that owns the sky?  How would you hide from a government
>>>> that knows more about you than you do, and has video cameras and
>>>> facial recognition at its disposal?
>>> 
>>> The same way Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq did, if it came down to
>>> underequipped guerillas versus a professional military. Make the
>>> occupation so expensive they simply give up eventually. Come to
>>> think of it, didn't Washington use such methods at times against the
>>> redcoats?
>> 
>> and canada got their independence with no fight at all
> 
> What kind of "independence" is it when you still have QE as your
> monarch? 
> 
> "Technically speaking, Queen Elizabeth is the Sovereign of the
> parliamentary democracy and constitutional monarchy of Canada. Unless
> you frequently use Canadian money or are particularly savvy with
> regard to Canadian politics, you may not have known they had any kind
> of monarchy." 
> 
> Bonus fact:  One stained glass window at the Empress hotel in
> Victoria, BC, shows the sun _setting_ on the British Empire.
> 
> Quite apt -- yet it is still named "British" Columbia.  Heh.

maybe you didn't read what i said , 
or i said it in a way you didn't understand 

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Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-04-27 18:38 -0700
  Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-28 01:52 +0000
    Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 18:54 -0700
    Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-04-28 02:07 +0000
      Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 19:19 -0700
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