Re: Clear Air Turbulence is called Clear Air Turbulence for good reason

From	Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
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Subject	Re: Clear Air Turbulence is called Clear Air Turbulence for good reason
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Date	2016-03-20 19:11 +0100
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Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

James McGinn, in
<news:77f3dbed-8940-4354-90e9-9042bee71e0b@googlegroups.com> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> On Sunday, March 20, 2016 at 1:07:00 AM UTC-7,
> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

>>> You can't say I didn't give you the opportunity.

>> You do realize, James, that as you destroy your real-life credibility
>> and image, I remain anonymous.

> Being anonymous and being irrelevant go hand in hand.

Not so, James. You're attempting to conflate the messenger with the
message, an age-old method of backpedaling that never fails to fail.

And yet again we find that James Bernard McGinn, Jr. of Antioch, CA 
can mount no substantive defense of his psychotic 'theory'.

You've been exposed as a moronic psychotic scientific fraud, James. 
Your theory has been torn to shreds using scientific fact and you 
cannot defend it. Each time you try, you blather out more moronic 
tripe that proves how badly broken your brain is, exposing more 
logical contradictions in your patchwork 'theory' made wholly of 
suppositions you pulled straight from your ass.

You've become a laughingstock, James. Can you not hear the howls of 
derisive laughter when you step outside your front door? The entire 
world is pointing and laughing at you, James McGinn, the moron who 
believes in a giant sentient sky tornado monster.

As proof that what I write above is truth, you will yet again evade 
substantively defending your moronic blather by running away from 
those tough questions that expose the gaping logical contradictions 
inherent in your 'theory', as outlined in my .sig.

-- 

Here, James, at the very least, try to address those tough questions
which spotlight the logical inconsistencies and contradictions
inherent in your "theory":

============================================================
Anders Nilsson measured (https://youtu.be/7hGqlEpvODw?t=2156) a
spectral peak that was not solid-phase nor liquid-phase water, James.
You claim that water remains liquid-phase upon evaporation. What was
Anders Nilsson measuring, James? Oh, that's right... gaseous phase
water, thereby proving that evaporation entails a phase change,
thereby proving latent heat of evaporation exists, thereby
*dis*proving a gigantic chunk of your theory, James.

You make a supposition that a "plasma not-a-plasma" is created from
water due to wind shear, which transports energy throughout the
atmosphere via wind driven by that plasma. Where does the energy come
from to create your "wind shear" to create your "plasma not-a-plasma"
if the "plasma not-a-plasma" cannot exist and thereby "transport
energy" by driving that wind to create the "wind shear" which creates
your "plasma not-a-plasma", unless there is "wind shear" to begin
with, James? Your logic is so twisted you're going in circles. You've
created a circulus in probando causality dilemma, which utterly
destroys your theory, James.

If, as you claim, the jet stream is a vortex, why is the ride while
inside the jet stream so smooth, James? Have you never ridden in an
airplane inside a jet stream, James?

Do you not understand that once the air going upward through the
tornadic funnel reaches the cumulonimbus cloud base above the
mesocyclone, it spreads out, thus the tornado is strictly a phenomenon
which happens from cloud base to ground? It does *not* go from the
ground all the way up through the cloud to the tropopause as you
claim, James, and it most certainly does not continue for potentially
hundreds of miles in the upper troposphere to join the jet stream,
which would make air travel deadly.

Explain why the jets run easterly, whereas the dry line runs N-S, if
the jets are powering the creation of tornadoes. How is a tornado
being created hundreds of miles from the edge of the jets, James?

How do your "jet stream vortices" travel potentially hundreds of miles
away from your "jet stream / giant tornado in the sky", without
detection by satellite *or* Doppler radar, and know where and when to
touch down so they always hit clouds, rather than tornadoes randomly
appearing out of the clear blue sky, James? Is your "jet stream /
giant tornado in the sky" sentient, James?

Which direction does air flow from a flame, Jim? Up, does it not?
That's convection due to temperature-induced density differential, is
it not? Which direction does air flow from a flame in zero gravity,
James? Radially in all directions, thereby snuffing out the flame due
to lack of oxygen. So your claiming that convection doesn't exist
means you're further claiming that gravity does not exist, and fire
cannot burn for very long before it is smothered due to lack of
oxygen. Or were you not aware that convection is a gravity-induced
phenomenon due to density differential, James?

How are your atmospheric "water droplets" forming if they're plasma,
Jim?

Do you not know what the definition of "plasma" is, James?

How is your "plasma not-a-plasma" (which you have admitted is a
hypothetical construct in a failed attempt to lend your claims even a
semblance of plausibility) forming if the nuclear binding energy and
dissociation energy of water are identical, and thus the water will
preferentially dissociate into hydrogen and oxygen unless hit with an
extremely energetic laser, Jim?

Where is the energy (equivalent to photons of 103.32 nm wavelength,
extremely strong ultraviolet, just 3.32 nm away from x-rays... except
photons with shorter wavelength than 121 nm are absorbed high above
the troposphere because they ionize air so well) coming from in the
troposphere to form your "plasma not-a-plasma", Jim?

How is the energy to plasmize your "plasma not-a-plasma" not
dissociating all water on the planet and killing all life on the
planet given that the energy *must* be in the troposphere where nearly
all the water is, and where all life is, Jim?

Now that it's been proven that water molecule polarity doesn't change
upon H bonding (which would have side effects such as random changes
in the solvent properties of water... and we know those properties do
not randomly change, Jim), and in fact the two spin isomers of water
molecules account for the different H bonding strengths which account
for evaporation and condensation, do you still contend that your
implausible claims are workable, Jim?
============================================================

Why can't you answer those questions, Jim?

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                Re: Clear Air Turbulence is called Clear Air Turbulence for good reason Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-23 04:30 +0100
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                Re: Clear Air Turbulence is called Clear Air Turbulence for good reason Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-23 04:40 +0100
                Re: Clear Air Turbulence is called Clear Air Turbulence for good reason Skeet <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-23 06:31 -0600
                Re: Clear Air Turbulence is called Clear Air Turbulence for good reason Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-23 09:09 -0700
                Re: Clear Air Turbulence is called Clear Air Turbulence for good reason snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-22 07:36 +0000
                Re: Clear Air Turbulence is called Clear Air Turbulence for good reason Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-22 17:12 +0800
                Re: Clear Air Turbulence is called Clear Air Turbulence for good reason snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-22 09:25 +0000
                Re: Clear Air Turbulence is called Clear Air Turbulence for good reason Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-23 17:37 +0100
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                Re: Clear Air Turbulence is called Clear Air Turbulence for good reason "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-03-22 12:53 -0400
                Re: Clear Air Turbulence is called Clear Air Turbulence for good reason Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-23 05:12 +0100
                Re: Clear Air Turbulence is called Clear Air Turbulence for good reason Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-23 17:09 +0800
                Re: Clear Air Turbulence is called Clear Air Turbulence for good reason Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-23 18:08 +0100
                Re: Clear Air Turbulence is called Clear Air Turbulence for good reason snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-22 18:57 +0000
                Re: Clear Air Turbulence is called Clear Air Turbulence for good reason Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-23 04:50 +0100
                Re: Clear Air Turbulence is called Clear Air Turbulence for good reason snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-23 07:04 +0000
                Re: Clear Air Turbulence is called Clear Air Turbulence for good reason Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-22 02:38 +0800
                Re: Clear Air Turbulence is called Clear Air Turbulence for good reason Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-22 05:05 +0100

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