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Re: AEC - Air Gapped Encrypted Communications released

From Anne Frank <bounce.me@n2n.oc2mx.net>
Newsgroups alt.privacy.anon-server, alt.cypherpunks, sci.crypt
Subject Re: AEC - Air Gapped Encrypted Communications released
Date 2026-06-04 15:10 +0200
Organization Victor Usenet Postings
Message-ID <96c977ad5cf8ef2c810c@n2n.oc2mx.net> (permalink)
References <10vrq44$26rf$4@news.tcpreset.net>

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<10mta0t$2oe8o$1@news.tcpreset.net>

> I am always open to constructive criticism

I've raised the forward secrecy issue five times. 
You've acknowledged NaCl box is good crypto, but haven't addressed the lack of ephemeral key rotation.

If forward secrecy isn't in scope for AEC's design, that's a valid choice. 

Just be clear with users: 
AEC protects against network surveillance, but not retrospective decryption after key compromise.
 
**I've asked this question six times. You've deflected to:**

  1. "Linux users are untrustworthy"
  2. "Cypherpunks work at Google"
  3. "OpenPGP UX is bad"

**None of these answer the question: Does AEC have forward secrecy? If not, why not?**

> Cypherpunks from the '90s are engineers at Google too...

Google was founded in 1998. 
The Cypherpunk Mailing List started in 1992. 
No cypherpunk from the '90s founded Google or worked there in the early days.

**Real cypherpunks from the '90s and where they are now:**
  - Phil Zimmermann (PGP) → Silent Circle (encrypted communications)
  - Adam Back (Hashcash) → Blockstream (Bitcoin core developer)
  - Hal Finney (remailer, PGP) → Bitcoin early adopter, died 2014
  - John Gilmore (EFF co-founder) → Privacy activism, never corporate
  - Julian Assange (contributor) → WikiLeaks (enemy of Google/US gov)
  - Jacob Appelbaum (Tor) → Exiled from US, persecuted for privacy work


I'm done with this thread. 

Good luck with AEC development.

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AEC - Air Gapped Encrypted Communications released Anne Frank <bounce.me@n2n.oc2mx.net> - 2026-06-03 15:32 +0200
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      Re: AEC - Air Gapped Encrypted Communications released Ch1ffr3punk <ch1ffr3punk@gmail.com> - 2026-06-04 11:32 +0000
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