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can a 6 dot Lewis explain it all?

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Date 2018-05-06 15:08 -0700
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Subject can a 6 dot Lewis explain it all?
From Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>

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On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 1:38:31 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> Alright, this is grating on my nerves, and want a solution by end of the day. 
> 
> There is a paradox here— linear geometry would break the O2 bond just to place a C atom in its center violating Least Energy Principle.
> 
> Solution (prospective) — the Lewis Diagram is not 8 but 6
> 

By the end of today, I want this solved.

> The Lewis bonding diagram involves 6 not 8
> 
> H2O is a template
>       ..
>      O
>    /     \
>  H      H
> 
> That is p_x, p_y
> 
> So to solve CO2, it is C with two dots and O with four dots
> And to solve entails the p_z axis where the O to O bond in the p_x and p_y plane is shared with carbon.
> 
> This would make experimental testing of CO2 look as if it were linear.
> 

What this does is make CO2 triangular and I hope, also, CO as triangular, that way I get absorption in infrared to be connected to the angle of the triangle involved, just as H2O is triangle bonding.

So, CO2 isomer of fire produced CO2 is this

       . .
       O
    /     \
   C --O
          . .

Now that C shares the O to O bond and for that reason, experimental physics shows CO2 as linear when in fact, the sharing of the O2 bond forces the C onto the z plane while O to O is in the xy plane.

The plant CO2 isomer is very much different for it had no origin in fire produced CO2.

Plant CO2 isomer looks like this:

       . .
       O
    /     \
   C --O
          . .

The same as fire CO2, only the Carbon atom is also remaining in the xy plane and has no z axis coverage. So it is easier to produce animal CO2 and to unzip animal CO2 for plants to use.

This would explain why experimental physics reveals a linear CO2 which is not really linear, for the C atom is spread over the z axis while the animal CO2 the bio CO2 is firmly set into the xy plane.

Now, to be true, it must explain Carbon Monoxide as a greenhouse gas, not as potent as CO2 fire isomer.

Here the challenge is that CO is only 2 atoms and would for all accounts be considered linear, and thus no bond angle.

So the Lewis diagram modified for 6 monopoles, not the octet 8 monopoles, but for 6 we would have a CO molecule as this
         .
      . 
C :   O
      ' 
        .

Alright, this Modified Lewis diagram involves not 8 dots but 6 and the reasoning is that Lewis only covers the p orbitals of p_x, p_y, p_z

So in these Lewis with 6 dots in total around any atom, is that the 2 carbon dots has to combine with the 4 oxygen dots to make 6 for carbon and 6 for oxygen. What that entails is a Oxygen atom that is what we can call "stretched state from the tip of one dot above, to the tip of the other dot below, stretched oxygen atom
while the carbon atom has its two dots between carbon and oxygen, so that both share 6 dots in all.

This would give CO a angle as the dots form a angle, and it would also explain why CO is unstable, for it burns in oxygen, CO is a fuel, and to be a fuel, its dot pattern must but lucrative for it to burn.

Now, why is N2 or O2 not greenhouse gases, the 6 dot Lewis has to explain those with having no angles.

AP

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