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| From | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
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| Subject | Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging |
| Message-ID | <8d2d364935211d1779b577aa62ea91da@dizum.com> (permalink) |
| Date | 2016-04-17 07:01 +0200 |
| Newsgroups | alt.usenet.kooks, sci.physics |
| Organization | dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> James 'Tardnado' McGinn, in <news:8ecc9b71-292e-4b23-98cb-92d242d69b99@googlegroups.com> did thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again: > On Saturday, April 16, 2016 at 4:41:36 PM UTC-7, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Saturday, April 16, 2016 at 1:45:03 PM UTC-7, >> James 'Tardnado' McGinn wrote: >>> Well, hmm, the boiling temperature of H2O at sea level is . . . >> ... not important! >> >> ... has no bearing on the presence of water in the air in its gaseous state! >> >> ... has nothing whatsoever to do with dry air being heavier than humid air! >> >> ... has nothing to do with the jet stream! >> >> ... has nothing to do with the index of refraction of air! >> >> ... has nothing to do with the index of refraction of water! >> >> ... has nothing to do with convection in the atmosphere! >> >> ... has nothing to do with the fact that you are clearly not a physicist! > These are the kind of excuses non-physicist use to continue pretending > they understand what they do not. You mean non-physicists like you, James? Your entire formal scientific education consists of your having failed out of a Basic Meteorology elective class. You're a scientific fraud and a liar, James. You only attended that class as an attempt to bolster your schizophrenic delusions about water and the atmosphere... and when the instructor proved you wrong, you gave up and quit the class. Doesn't that about sum it up, James? > It is a fact--plain and simple--that you > have no evidence that substantiates your goofy belief that gaseous H2O > occurs at temperatures below its known boiling temperature/pressure. You mean besides the peer-reviewed studies and empirical observations proving that monomolecular H2O exists in the atmosphere, right, TornadoTard? Nilsson's study: <https://youtu.be/7hGqlEpvODw?t=2156> If water molecules are H bonded together, it's liquid water, James. Photon energy from electron orbital descent is dependent upon H bonding strength (given that it's an electrostatic bond), the stronger the H bond, the lower the photon energy. Nilsson measured a higher photon energy from electron orbital descent in gaseous-phase water than that of liquid-phase water. If it'd been liquid-phase water as you claim, the photon energy would have been identical to that of liquid-phase water. It wasn't, hence gaseous phase water is monomolecular with no H bonding. Water In The Gas Phase - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3350649/ Not ab initio (which you stupidly call "ab initro" in your videos LOL)... direct measurement of monomolecular water in the gaseous phase. 16 referenced papers. Max Planck Institute for Polymer Research http://www.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/molecular_mechanism_of_water_evaporation Direct empirical observation of monomolecular evaporation. http://archiv.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/volltextserver/6686/ Active Long Path Differential Optical Absorption Spectroscopy to directly observe monomolecular gaseous-phase water in the atmosphere. Now you can run away from reality all over again, James. You delusional reality-denying kooktard. Now let's contrast that with what you've got, James... you've *retracted* the central premise for your entire delusion as you writhed and squirmed in trying to escape being proven wrong, then when you realized that your having done so destroyed your entire delusion, you quickly picked up your "variable polarity of the H2O molecule" claim from the ground, dusted it off, slapped it back onto your delusion and duct-taped it in place. That had to be embarrassing for you, eh? LOL James Bernard 'Tardnado' McGinn dribbled: Message-ID: <3a52e2f1a86d44a43a939ee435645e09@dizum.com> ======================================================== > Retracted: > Polarity is a variable. And the mechanism that alters (reduces) > the polarity of H2O molecules is the completion of hydrogen > bonds with adjoining water molecules. ======================================================== James Bernard 'Tardnado' McGinn dribbled: Message-ID: <3a52e2f1a86d44a43a939ee435645e09@dizum.com> ======================================================== > In my post entitled Conservation of Energy in Earth's > Atmosphere I describe how the spinning of water > droplets/clusters--a direct result of wind shear--causes > these droplets to elongate into chains of partially > reactivated H2O molecules, effectuating a plasma with > structural integrity. It is important to note that > without the concept that is the subject of this post > (the Polarity Neutralization Implication of Hydrogen > Bonds Between Water Molecules and Groups Thereof) this > would not be possible. ======================================================== Thus, without your "variable polarity of the water molecule" claim (now retracted by you), your "plasma not-a-plasma" claim falls, by your own admission. And without your "plasma not-a-plasma" claim, your "boundaries and structures" which you claim that "plasma not-a-plasma" forms which drives the winds. Thus your entire "theory not-a-theory" just came crashing to the ground. That's what happens when you build your "theory not-a-theory" like a Jenga tower of lies and suppositions, James. Yet again, you've destroyed your moronic theory in trying to slap patches on it so you can writhe your way out of being proven wrong. You're too ignorant, insane and uneducated to acknowledge or understand reality, let alone model it, Tardnado. LOL That was an embarrassing gaffe on your part, wasn't it, TornadoTard? LOL Why can't you answer those questions which highlight your psychosis, James Bernard 'Tardnado' McGinn, Jr. of Antioch, CA? -- Here, James, at the very least, try to address those tough questions which spotlight the logical inconsistencies and contradictions inherent in your "theory": ============================================================ Why are you known as Tardnado McGinn, the delusional moronic ignorant uneducated psychotic babbling loon, James? Why have you been legally deemed to be mentally incompetent and a lifelong ward of your parents James, Sr. and Constance, necessitating that you live with your parents because you'd be a danger to yourself if you lived independently, James? Is it your paranoid schizophrenia? Is that why your mommy has to feed you, dress you, wipe your ass and help you to not piss all over yourself? And you call yourself a scientist, James? You're nothing more than a pathetic basement-dwelling schizo-brained delusional loser. Anders Nilsson measured (https://youtu.be/7hGqlEpvODw?t=2156) a spectral peak that was not solid-phase nor liquid-phase water, James. You claim that water remains liquid-phase upon evaporation. What was Anders Nilsson measuring, James? Oh, that's right... gaseous phase water, thereby proving that evaporation entails a phase change, thereby proving latent heat of evaporation exists, thereby *dis*proving a gigantic chunk of your theory, James. You make a supposition that a "plasma not-a-plasma" is created from water due to wind shear, which transports energy throughout the atmosphere via wind driven by that plasma. Where does the energy come from to create your "wind shear" to create your "plasma not-a-plasma" if the "plasma not-a-plasma" cannot exist and thereby "transport energy" by driving that wind to create the "wind shear" which creates your "plasma not-a-plasma", unless there is "wind shear" to begin with, James? Your logic is so twisted you're going in circles. You've created a circulus in probando causality dilemma, which utterly destroys your theory, James. You've yet again slapped a patch on your theory, abandoning Coulomb's Law for a separate "mechanism" by which electrostatic attraction increases with increasing distance. How does your "mechanism" and electrostatic attraction in accordance with Coulomb's Law not mutually cancel, thereby dissociating all water, James? According to your "theory", electrostatic attraction *increases* with distance (in violation of Coulomb's Law), which means that when an electron falls in orbit, it has to *absorb* energy. And that higher energy level somehow translates into a *weaker* electrostatic attraction. Now let's look at the other side of the coin... the electron in orbit would give off energy, rise in orbit, and somehow, that *lower* energy level translates into a *stronger* electrostatic attraction... how's *that* work, James? Explain how you've not just violated the Law of Conservation of Energy on an atomic level. How do the polarity of the electron and the proton cancel if, as even you admit, there is a distance between them as a result of the Pauli Exclusion Principle and the repulsive van der Waals force, KookTard, and once they've cancelled, how is polarity reestablished, and how is that not dissociating the water? If water molecule polarity dropped upon H bonding, why is the boiling point of water anomalously high as compared to other H-bonded hydrides, KookTard? If water molecule polarity dropped upon H bonding, then water's cohesion would also drop. Why does it not do that, KookTard? If water molecule polarity dropped upon H bonding, how is water *not* splitting up into hydroxide and hydronium ions, KookTard? If water molecule polarity dropped upon H bonding, why does water have such a high latent heat of vaporization, a direct result of that same H bonding, KookTard? Of course, being the delusional uneducated moron that you are, you deny that water has any latent heat of vaporization... but you're *so* stupid that you didn't realize that your denial also means you deny that water has a gaseous phase, and that's just retarded. If water molecule polarity dropped upon H bonding, why does water not become much more dense upon fully H bonding, KookTard? How do your "jet stream vortices" travel potentially hundreds of miles away from your "jet stream / giant tornado in the sky", without detection by satellite *or* Doppler radar, and know where and when to touch down so they always hit only cumulonimbus clouds, rather than tornadoes randomly appearing out of the clear blue sky or from other types of clouds, James? Is your "jet stream / giant tornado in the sky" sentient, James? Go on, Jim, tell us... *why* is there a "boundary" between the troposphere and the stratosphere... we're waiting, Jim... No answer, Jim? Is it because that's where your "sentient jet stream / giant tornado monster with noodly appendages" lives, and it likes it that way, Jim? Do you need your meds, Jim? How does a hot air balloon work, James? No plasma, no giant sentient tornado monster in the jet stream... how does it rise, Jim? Why can't you explain that, James? Why does water freeze from the top down, even if the heat sink is *below* the container of water? That's another question your "theory not-a-theory" can't answer. Why can't you provide the explanation and mathematics to prove your claim that humid air is heavier than dry air, James? Why can't you explain or mathematically model even *one* of your delusions, James? Why can't you get your delusions through the peer-review process, James? Why can't you even get your delusion on a pre-print server, James? Why are there *no* corroborating studies backing up your delusions, James? Why are you shunned by the scientific community, James? Why is your blather on the comments sections of websites being *deleted*, dismissed as the mad barking of a loon, James? Why are you described in the reviews of the "books" you've written as "delusional", "insane", and a "conspiracy theorist", James? Why did you *fail* *out* of an elective Basic Meteorology class, in which they teach the very concepts you're blathering out your lack of education about now, James? Why do you so hate meteorologists, James? Is it because you failed out of the elective Basic Meteorology class because you've legally been deemed mentally incompetent, James? Why do you use your failing out of an elective Basic Meteorology class as the basis to claim yourself to be a "physicist not-a-physicist", James? Do you not understand that physicists are highly educated, whereas you're ignorant and uneducated? What universities did you attend, what were your majors and what was the topic of your Ph.D. thesis, James? You don't have a Ph.D? Then you're not a physicist, James. LOL If, as you claim, the jet stream is a vortex, why is the ride while inside the jet stream so smooth, James? Have you never ridden in an airplane inside a jet stream, James? Is it just that your "sentient jet stream / giant tornado monster with noodly appendages" likes its back scratched by the aircraft, so it doesn't rip the aircraft to shreds, Jim? Do you not understand that once the air going upward through the tornadic funnel reaches the cumulonimbus cloud base above the mesocyclone, it spreads out, thus the tornado is strictly a phenomenon which happens from cloud base to ground? It does *not* go from the ground all the way up through the cloud to the tropopause as you claim, James, and it most certainly does not continue for potentially thousands of miles in the upper troposphere to join the jet stream, which would make air travel deadly. Explain why the jets run easterly, whereas the dry line runs N-S, if the jets are powering the creation of tornadoes. How is a tornado being created hundreds of miles from the edge of the jets, James? Which direction does air flow from a flame, Jim? Up, does it not? That's convection due to temperature-induced density differential, is it not? Which direction does air flow from a flame in zero gravity, James? Radially in all directions, thereby snuffing out the flame due to lack of oxygen. So your claiming that convection doesn't exist means you're further claiming that gravity does not exist, and fire cannot burn for very long before it is smothered due to lack of oxygen. Or were you not aware that convection is a gravity-induced phenomenon due to density differential, James? How are your atmospheric "water droplets" forming if they're plasma, Jim? Do you not know that water droplets *minimize* surface area, James? How are your "plasma not-a-plasma" "water droplets" *maximizing* their surface area as you claim? Do you not know what the definition of "plasma" is, James? How is your "plasma not-a-plasma" (which you have admitted is a hypothetical construct in a failed attempt to lend your claims even a semblance of plausibility) forming if the nuclear binding energy and dissociation energy of water are identical, and thus the water will preferentially dissociate into hydrogen and oxygen unless hit with an extremely energetic laser, Jim? Where is the energy (equivalent to photons of 103.32 nm wavelength, extremely strong ultraviolet, just 3.32 nm away from x-rays... except photons with shorter wavelength than 121 nm are absorbed high above the troposphere because they ionize air so well) coming from in the troposphere to form your "plasma not-a-plasma", Jim? How is the energy to plasmize your "plasma not-a-plasma" not dissociating all water on the planet and killing all life on the planet given that the energy *must* be in the troposphere where nearly all the water is, and where all life is, Jim? Now that it's been proven that water molecule polarity doesn't change upon H bonding (which would have side effects such as random changes in the solvent properties of water... and we know those properties do not randomly change, Jim), and in fact the two spin isomers of water molecules account for the different H bonding strengths which account for evaporation and condensation, do you still contend that your implausible claims are workable, Jim? Why are you not taking your meds, James? ============================================================ Why can't you answer those questions, Tardnado Jim?
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