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Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks !

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Date 2016-03-09 06:04 -0800
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Subject Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks !
From Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com>

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El miércoles, 9 de marzo de 2016, 2:41:15 (UTC-5), mlwo...@wp.pl  escribió:
> W dniu wtorek, 8 marca 2016 17:26:21 UTC+1 użytkownik paparios napisał:
> > On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 12:04:07 PM UTC-3, Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato wrote:
> > > El martes, 8 de marzo de 2016, 0:01:16 (UTC-5), tjrob137  escribió:
> > > > On 3/7/16 3/7/16   7:33 AM, Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato wrote:
> > > > > As I wrote to Tom, I read already that document page by page, searching
> > > > > (without success) for a place describing in it a transmission (or reception) of
> > > > > a signal with the 10.23 MHz (or near to it) synchronizing frequency for all GPS
> > > > > clocks.
> > > > 
> > > > It's clear that you do not understand the document and the nomenclature used in it.
> > > > 
> > > > 10.2299999954326 MHz is the frequency at which the satellite MODULATES its two 
> > > > carriers (L1 and L2, which are specified as 154 and 120 times the modulation 
> > > > frequency). This is called the "chip frequency", and is the base frequency to 
> > > > which all digital frequencies in the satellite are referenced by integer 
> > > > multipliers; it is derived from the on-board atomic clocks. Because of the CDMA 
> > > > modulation used, it requires many "chip times" to transmit each data bit.
> > > > 
> > > > Note that multiple data streams are XOR-ed into the two carrier modulations, 
> > > > using 1023 and 10230 chips/bit -- that is enough to separate the data streams, 
> > > > provide for receiver signal acquisition, and support robust error detection and 
> > > > correction at the receiver (all digitally).
> > > > 
> > > > On the geoid, of course, the signals are received with a modulation frequency of 
> > > > 10.230000000000 MHz.
> > > >
> > > Analyze the following two simple arithmetical EXACT equalities (with the *
> > > multiplication sign):
> > > 
> > > 10.23*154=1575.42
> > > 
> > > 10.23*120=1227.6
> > > 
> > > and make your own conclusions.
> > > 
> > > Continue you thinking that "10.2299999954326 MHz is the frequency at which the
> > > satellite MODULATES its two carriers (L1 and L2, which are specified as 154 and
> > > 120 times the modulation frequency)" ?.
> > > 
> > > RVHG (Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato)
> > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Tom Roberts
> > 
> > For sure, since the device which has to decode the CDMA spread spectrum signal is, obviously, in your or mine GPS receiver. To receive the signal at 10.23 MHz ON THE GROUND, it has to sent at 10.2299999954326 MHz.
> 
> So said The Shit. Must be true, but measurements
> say differently.

What 1905 Einstein says is that ALL the synchronized clocks in the stationary
system of all Earth's parts (a Newtonian center of mass system, today denoted
GPS ECI) are showing the same and unique (defined by him) time, corresponding
to the same and unique synchronizing frequency of 10.23 MHz for ALL the clocks,
including the operative satellite ones.

The 10.2299999954326 MHz frequency is only a temporal NOT operative one for a
clock in a satellite still at ground before the launching, what increases to
the desired 10.23 MHz when it is already operative in orbit.

There is NOT at all in the operative GPS any 10.23 MHz SIGNAL frequency
transmitted or received in any place. The communication channels that broadcast
information from the satellites to the stationary space use other different
(and arbitrary) carrier frequencies.

RVHG (Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato)

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