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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: Is this poor style? |
| Date | 2015-03-25 12:17 -0700 |
| Organization | None to speak of |
| Message-ID | <87y4mkq42r.fsf@kst-u.example.com> (permalink) |
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Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
> Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> writes:
>
>> Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
>>> Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> writes:
>>>> When I see something like
>>>>
>>>> #define G goto
>>>>
>>>> in your code, I simply stop reading. It's not worth my time and
>>>> effort to wade through the obfuscation and figure out what the
>>>> code actually does.
>>>>
>>>> Now there are two possibilities;
>>>>
>>>> 1. You're right that these one-letter macros make your code
>>>> better. Everyone else (and I do mean very nearly *everyone*; I
>>>> don't think I've ever seen anyone here agree with you on this
>>>> point) just doesn't understand the superiority of your coding
>>>> style. You're right and everyone else is wrong.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Your macros really don't help anyone other than you.
>>>>
>>>> Which do you think is more likely?
>>>
>>> There is a third possibility: a fair number of people like or
>>> don't mind them, and a fair number of people dislike or do mind
>>> them. In fact I believe this is the most likely possibility (ie,
>>> of the three).
>>>
>>> Don't get me wrong, I don't really like them myself, but I think
>>> the "two possibilities" above represent a false dichotomy.
>>
>> We're not going to settle this, but given the complete lack of
>> disgreement by anyone else to the vehement and repeated criticisms
>> of these macros, I strongly suspect that #2 is correct.
>
> I will gladly agree that #2 may actually be so if you
> will also agree that #3 is at least a possibility. That's
> the most important part of what I was saying.
Agreed. (I don't really see the importance, but I don't think judging
the level of importance is important.)
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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Re: Is this poor style? Rosario193 <Rosario@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-08 11:14 +0100
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Re: Is this poor style? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-01-04 15:36 -0800
Re: Is this poor style? asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2015-01-05 12:05 -0800
Re: Is this poor style? asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2015-01-05 14:18 -0800
Re: Is this poor style? asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2015-01-05 14:32 -0800
Re: Is this poor style? asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2015-01-05 14:37 -0800
Re: Is this poor style? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-01-05 18:23 -0500
Re: Is this poor style? Richard Heathfield <invalid@see.sig.invalid> - 2015-01-05 23:32 +0000
Re: Is this poor style? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-01-05 15:31 -0800
Re: Is this poor style? Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2015-01-13 15:00 +0200
Re: Is this poor style? Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-01-04 15:07 -0600
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