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| From | Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: global/static variables & loops |
| Date | 2012-02-22 03:15 +0200 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <87r4xnr7m8.fsf@bazspaz.fatphil.org> (permalink) |
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Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> writes:
> On 2012-02-19, Jonathan Leffler <jleffler@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > On 2/14/12 9:53 PM, pete wrote:
> >> On my machine, stdout is an address constant,
> >> which is not something that I would refer to as a "variable".
> >>
> >> I can compile this:
> >>
> >> FILE *array[] = {stdout};
> >
> > That will work at file scope or global scope on some platforms - such as
> > Solaris and probably HP-UX and AIX. It will not work on Linux or BSD
> > (including Mac OS X), so portable code doesn't try to initialize global
> > or file-scope (static) variables like that, nuisance though it be.
>
> I think the point was to make exactly that point. And that was pointless
> to begin with. stdout is morally a global variable. It's a good example of
> a use for global variables: pervasive symbols that refer to something.
>
> It is useful to be able assign a value to stdout to redirect output elsewhere,
> and then restore the value.
>
> So stdout is actually functionally crippled by /not/ being defined as a
> variable.
Why do you want to leak both its value and its address, when all that
is needed by the clients is the value? (c.f. errno.)
Phil
--
> I'd argue that there is much evidence for the existence of a God.
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Re: global/static variables & loops Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-02-14 12:42 -0800
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Re: global/static variables & loops pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2012-02-15 00:53 -0500
Re: global/static variables & loops Jonathan Leffler <jleffler@earthlink.net> - 2012-02-18 21:15 -0800
Re: global/static variables & loops Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-02-19 06:05 +0000
Re: global/static variables & loops Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-22 03:15 +0200
Re: global/static variables & loops Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2012-02-19 04:14 -0500
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Re: Array 'typedef's and exclusive use of '->' versus '.' Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2012-02-19 17:00 -0500
Re: Array 'typedef's and exclusive use of '->' versus '.' Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-19 16:43 -0800
Re: Array 'typedef's and exclusive use of '->' versus '.' Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2012-02-19 20:32 -0500
Re: Array 'typedef's and exclusive use of '->' versus '.' Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-22 03:27 +0200
Re: Array 'typedef's and exclusive use of '->' versus '.' Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2012-02-25 02:19 -0500
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Re: global/static variables & loops "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-02-15 12:54 +0000
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Re: global/static variables & loops August Karlstrom <fusionfile@gmail.com> - 2012-02-15 15:19 +0100
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Re: global/static variables & loops Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-02-15 23:10 +0100
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Re: global/static variables & loops James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-02-15 19:50 -0500
Re: global/static variables & loops Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-02-16 14:36 +0100
Re: global/static variables & loops Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-02-16 03:29 -0800
Re: global/static variables & loops Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-02-15 23:37 +0100
Re: global/static variables & loops Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-02-16 00:23 +0000
Re: global/static variables & loops Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-02-16 01:29 +0100
Re: global/static variables & loops Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-02-15 21:20 -0500
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Re: global/static variables & loops Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-02-16 01:08 -0800
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