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| From | Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.folklore.computers |
| Subject | Re: How the computer transformed economics. And didn't. |
| Date | 2016-05-21 09:17 -0700 |
| Organization | Wheeler&Wheeler |
| Message-ID | <87r3cvfkrb.fsf@garlic.com> (permalink) |
| References | <87zirky8ow.fsf@garlic.com> <87vb28y46o.fsf@garlic.com> |
re: http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#25 How the computer transformed economics. And didn't. http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#26 How the computer transformed economics. And didn't. 1989, economic model of the CITI (variable rate) mortgage portfolio (at the time the largest player in the mortgage market) was donethat showed small changes would result in the portfolio taking down the institution. CITI then sold off the portfolio, got out of the market and required a private (Saudi) bailout to stay in business. long-winded past discussion http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm Middle of last decade (15yrs after CITI almost imploded), one of the people that had been involved in the previous CITI analysis wrote articles that the economic models then being used weren't correctly accounting for the risk. Towards the end of 2008 there were a number of articles trying to show that the economic mess was the result of using bad computer models as well as trying to blame risk managers at the institutions. However, there were a few articles about institution risk managers who said that business executives were forcing them to fiddle model input until they got the desired results, aka GIGO (and calling for risk managers having protection from business executive influence). Note that CITI was one of the biggest players in the economic mess (demonstration ephemeral nature of institutional memory; aka the triple-A rated toxic securitzed mortgages were convoluted form of mortgage portfolio helping obfuscate what was really going on). http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo other past refs to 1989 private bail-out http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#64 independent appraisers http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#26 Blinkenlights http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#57 Blinkenlights http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#27 The Zippo Lighter theory of the financial crisis (or, who do we want to blame?) http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#45 Productivity And Bubbles http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#28 The first personal computer (PC) http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#41 On Protectionism http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#89 The Grand Message in the Conceptual Spiral http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#73 Did You Hear the One About the Bankers? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#51 The men who crashed the world http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#52 Civilization, doomed? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#44 New Citigroup Looks Too Much Like the Old One http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#5 PC industry is heading for more change http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#24 Royal Pardon For Turing http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#67 Royal Pardon For Turing http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#72 Qbasic http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#11 Qbasic http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#86 Wells Fargo "Admits Deceiving" U.S. Government, Pays Record $1.2 Billion Settlement http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#0 Why Is the Obama Administration Trying to Keep 11,000 Documents Sealed? -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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