Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C?

From	Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C?
Date	2016-09-13 17:18 +0100
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cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) writes:

> In article <nr93rt$lgt$1@reader2.panix.com>,
> Dan Cross <cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net> wrote:
>>In article <87wpifq3db.fsf@bsb.me.uk>,
>>Ben Bacarisse  <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> wrote:
>>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>The original assumed that size was at least 1.  If that's reasonable you
>>>can test
>>>
>>>  src[size - 1] && size > 1 && dst[size - 2]
>>>
>>>and if size could be 0 the test gets more complicated still but not very
>>>much more complicated.  The most obvious one being
>>>
>>>  size && src[size - 1] && size > 1 && dst[size - 2]
>>>
>>>It may not be of any practical value, but I think it's interesting to
>>>know that O(1) overflow detection is always possible in these cases.
>>
>>Yes yes, that's true, but surely we can see that one approaches a point
>>of diminishing returns with these sorts of shenanigans. One could simply
>>use strlcpy() and avoid all of this, no?
>
> And to wit: Surely one would not expect a reasonable program to duplicate
> these checks at every strncat() call site. Instead, one would wrap this
> sequence of code up into some kind of function; at that point, one may as
> well simply call the 8 line strlcpy().

Yes, of course.  That's the "it may not be of any practical value" part.

I suspect we've kept this going simply because my interests differ from
yours.  Nowadays, programming is largely an intellectual exercise for
me, so I like to show alternatives, especially when they seem
non-obvious.  I don't expect anyone to prefer the above over other, more
robust, engineering solutions.  I suppose the trouble is you worry that
readers won't make the assessment correctly whereas I just assume they
will do.

-- 
Ben.

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How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? will hunt <glovepm@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 18:50 -0700
  Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2016-09-02 01:58 +0000
    Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? will hunt <glovepm@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 19:40 -0700
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        Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-09-12 15:30 -0700
    Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-09-01 23:08 -0700
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  Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-09-01 23:58 -0700
  Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-09-02 10:42 +0100
    Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-09-04 22:23 -0700
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        Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-09-05 10:30 +0100
          Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-09-10 11:25 -0700
        Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-09-11 06:23 -0700
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                Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-09-12 07:04 -0700
  Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-09-02 12:36 +0100
    Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-09-02 14:24 +0100
      Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-09-02 14:51 +0100
      Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-09-04 23:42 -0700
  Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-09-02 18:05 +0100
    Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2016-09-02 19:48 +0000
  Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2016-09-13 01:45 +0000
    Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-09-13 11:06 +0100
      Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2016-09-13 14:09 +0000
        Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-09-13 15:30 +0100
          Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2016-09-13 14:52 +0000
            Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2016-09-13 14:54 +0000
              Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-09-13 17:18 +0100
                Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2016-09-13 18:15 +0000
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                Re: How to copy a string safely and efficiently in C? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2016-09-15 14:03 +0000
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