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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: What constitutes "standard" C? |
| Date | 2015-04-05 13:28 -0700 |
| Organization | None to speak of |
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glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> writes:
[...]
> OK, but that is a quality of implementation question.
>
> I thought here we were discussing what it required of an implementation.
>
> To get more specific, consider a unix-like system where the linker
> generates an output file, but doesn't give it the executable attribute.
>
> According to unix, then, it has not been successful, and unix won't
> execute the file.
>
> But I can then chmod +x the file, and run it anyway!
>
> It might even do what I wanted it to do, even if it has a #error in it.
>
> Should an implementation try harder to stop me?
Should it? Absolutely.
Is it required to? I'd say no.
Realistically, I'd be very surprised if an implementation generated an
image file for a program containing a #error directive, and just left it
non-executable as an excuse to be able to say it wasn't "successfully
translated". It's far easier just to treat #error as a fatal error and
not even generate an object file.
The standard permits compilers to behave in all sorts of bizarre ways,
just because its not worth the effort to explicitly forbid every
behavior that might not be considered useful or sensible.
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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