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| From | Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c++ |
| Subject | Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? |
| Date | 2011-09-11 14:51 +0900 |
| Message-ID | <87fwk3k4nd.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (permalink) |
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Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> writes: > autoconf is okay at what it does, but I draw the line there. I won't use > automake or libtool, as those tend to render the entire build process > unintelligible to anyone who isn't an automake/libtool guru. I expect > Makefiles to be human-readable. I beg to differ. The human-readable file when using automake is "Makefile.am", which is far, far, nicer (readable, maintainable, etc) than a hand-written Makefile for anything but the most utterly trivial cases. The language used by automake in Makefile.am is very nice. As the process for generating Makefiles from Makefile.am is completely automated and hands-free, there's no reason for users to ever look at it. _Very simple_ makefiles are generally pretty readable, but they very quickly become a big mess of boilerplate. Automake solves this problem by generating the boilerplate automatically, so that humans never have to look at it. [my general habit is to write straight Makefiles at the beginning, and eventually when the complexity exceeds some threshold, change to automake -- which is accompanied by a huge reduction in complexity and size, but a big increase in functionality .... win win all 'round basically...] -Miles -- Circus, n. A place where horses, ponies and elephants are permitted to see men, women and children acting the fool.
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Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? KaiWen <wenkai1987@gmail.com> - 2011-09-01 01:41 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-01 21:15 +1200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? "Fred Zwarts \(KVI\)" <F.Zwarts@KVI.nl> - 2011-09-01 11:48 +0200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-09-01 15:34 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? KaiWen <wenkai1987@gmail.com> - 2011-09-01 19:09 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-02 14:39 +1200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Krice <paulkp@mbnet.fi> - 2011-09-01 22:33 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2011-09-02 01:12 -0500
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? James Kanze <james.kanze@gmail.com> - 2011-09-03 15:25 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2011-09-04 01:34 -0500
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-04 02:33 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? James Kanze <james.kanze@gmail.com> - 2011-09-04 11:00 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Goran <goran.pusic@gmail.com> - 2011-09-01 23:23 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-02 03:00 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Goran <goran.pusic@gmail.com> - 2011-09-02 09:39 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2011-09-02 12:44 +0100
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2011-09-02 09:59 +0100
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-02 11:25 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-09-03 05:51 +0000
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-03 01:45 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-03 20:53 +1200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-03 10:49 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-04 08:15 +1200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-03 17:50 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-09-03 16:28 +0000
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-03 10:42 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? "Bo Persson" <bop@gmb.dk> - 2011-09-04 11:34 +0200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-04 09:04 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-09-04 18:04 +0000
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Keith H Duggar <duggar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-09-04 18:44 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-04 23:26 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-09-05 08:01 +0000
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-05 11:45 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-09-06 06:30 +0000
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-06 07:22 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-09-06 16:25 +0900
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-06 07:14 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-09-07 12:28 +0900
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-07 16:49 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Noah Roberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-07 18:45 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-08 15:56 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? James Kanze <james.kanze@gmail.com> - 2011-09-03 15:32 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-03 19:16 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-05 00:28 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-05 12:34 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-06 07:51 +1200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-05 14:06 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-06 00:32 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-06 07:33 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-07 02:52 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-08 16:24 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-09 11:38 +1200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-08 21:39 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-09 19:01 +1200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-09 02:45 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-09 03:23 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2011-09-14 23:12 +0000
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-09 02:40 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-09 11:19 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2011-09-09 15:42 -0500
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-09 14:24 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Noah Roberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-09 18:22 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-10 10:11 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Noah Roberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-10 10:54 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-10 14:28 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-09-11 12:29 +0900
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-11 00:45 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-09-12 00:39 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-09-12 18:06 +0900
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-09-12 16:46 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-09-13 10:20 +0900
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-09-13 13:16 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-09-11 04:53 +0100
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-09-11 14:51 +0900
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-10 07:46 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? KaiWen <wenkai1987@gmail.com> - 2011-09-06 03:10 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-06 22:50 +1200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? KaiWen <wenkai1987@gmail.com> - 2011-09-06 04:48 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? yatremblay@bel1lin202.(none) (Yannick Tremblay) - 2011-09-07 09:45 +0000
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-07 21:51 +1200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? KaiWen <wenkai1987@gmail.com> - 2011-09-08 00:15 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? yatremblay@bel1lin202.(none) (Yannick Tremblay) - 2011-09-08 12:14 +0000
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? KaiWen <wenkai1987@gmail.com> - 2011-09-08 07:14 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Asger-P <junk@asger-p.dk> - 2011-09-06 13:52 +0200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2011-09-06 11:47 -0500
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2011-09-06 11:50 -0500
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Asger-P <junk@asger-p.dk> - 2011-09-06 21:04 +0200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-09-06 20:37 +0100
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2011-09-06 15:10 -0500
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-09-06 21:14 +0100
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Asger-P <junk@asger-p.dk> - 2011-09-07 00:40 +0200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-09-06 23:59 +0100
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Noah Roberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-06 16:26 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2011-09-06 14:55 -0500
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Asger-P <junk@asger-p.dk> - 2011-09-07 00:51 +0200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2011-09-06 23:29 -0500
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Asger-P <junk@asger-p.dk> - 2011-09-07 09:06 +0200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-07 19:09 +1200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-09-07 13:19 +0100
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-09-07 13:01 +0000
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2011-09-07 14:26 +0100
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Asger-P <junk@asger-p.dk> - 2011-09-07 15:49 +0200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-08 22:49 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-09-09 15:25 +0900
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-09 02:50 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-09 03:26 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-09 03:25 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-06 00:24 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? yatremblay@bel1lin202.(none) (Yannick Tremblay) - 2011-09-06 13:57 +0000
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-06 08:18 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-09-03 08:34 +0100
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? "A" <a@a.a> - 2011-09-01 11:50 +0200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2011-09-01 10:53 +0100
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? James Kanze <james.kanze@gmail.com> - 2011-09-03 15:11 -0700
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