Re: Variable naming issue

From	Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: Variable naming issue
Date	2017-04-25 13:59 +0100
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bartc <bc@freeuk.com> writes:

> On 25/04/2017 12:07, David Brown wrote:
>> On 25/04/17 11:40, bartc wrote:
>
>>> In the rare case of a compiler working with an existing assembler that
>>> doesn't support '$' (or any other character, eg. Unicode),
>>
>> What is it that you think is rare?  That compilers work with existing
>> assemblers?  Most compilers generate assembly outputs, and most make use
>> of existing assemblers.
>>
>> Or do you think that it is rare for an assembler to use a dollar sign in
>> some special way that is incompatible (or at least inconvenient) with
>> using dollars in identifiers?
>>
>> I know of assemblers that use $ to indicate local variables, assemblers
>> that use it for hex literals (rather than C's 0x), assemblers that use
>> it for register names, assemblers that use it for "current position" -
>> and assemblers that simply reject it as a letter.
>
> So you're saying they're all different? In which case, the answer is
> to cripple the language to work to the lowest common denominator?

Can I confirm that this is an accurate statement of your opinion -- that
a language (maybe only C) is literally *crippled* because you can't rely
on using $ in an identifier?  I ask because I think you sometimes just
say stuff to get a rise from people.

<snip>
> In the case of Tiny C, I think everything is done internally. So
> what's the excuse, saving a few bytes of code? It can't be that
> desperate to be stay tiny!

Excuse?  Is that also a genuine opinion -- any C compiler that does not
permit $ in an identifier should have an *excuse* for not doing so?

Whatever their "excuse" it's not code size since tcc /does/ use $, it's
juts they decided to use it differently.

-- 
Ben.

Thread

Variable naming issue maximus fl <ajones2600@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 16:17 -0700
  Re: Variable naming issue David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 16:28 -0700
  Re: Variable naming issue bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-04-25 01:09 +0100
    Re: Variable naming issue Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2017-04-25 09:37 +0200
      Re: Variable naming issue bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-04-25 10:40 +0100
        Re: Variable naming issue David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-04-25 13:07 +0200
          Re: Variable naming issue bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-04-25 13:24 +0100
            Re: Variable naming issue bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-04-25 13:27 +0100
            Re: Variable naming issue Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-04-25 13:59 +0100
              Re: Variable naming issue bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-04-25 14:20 +0100
                Re: Variable naming issue Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-04-25 14:27 +0100
                Re: Variable naming issue Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-04-25 11:52 -0700
                Re: Variable naming issue Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-04-25 13:40 -0700
                Re: Variable naming issue bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-04-25 22:14 +0100
                Re: Variable naming issue David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-04-26 00:16 +0200
                Re: Variable naming issue bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-04-26 00:13 +0100
                Re: Variable naming issue David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-04-26 10:10 +0200
                Re: Variable naming issue supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-04-25 14:33 -0700
                Re: Variable naming issue Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-04-25 06:39 -0700
                Re: Variable naming issue Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-25 09:35 -0500
              Re: Variable naming issue Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 18:39 +0100
                Re: Variable naming issue bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-04-25 18:49 +0100
                Re: Variable naming issue David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 11:19 -0700
                Re: Variable naming issue bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-04-25 19:31 +0100
                Re: Variable naming issue Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-04-25 23:36 +0100
                Re: Variable naming issue David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 17:04 -0700
                Re: Variable naming issue Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-26 00:32 -0500
            Re: Variable naming issue David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-04-25 16:02 +0200
            Re: Variable naming issue Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-02 05:25 -0700
              Re: Variable naming issue supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-02 10:04 -0700
                Re: Variable naming issue Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-05 03:06 -0700
          Re: Variable naming issue supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-04-25 07:12 -0700
          Re: Variable naming issue Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-25 09:48 -0500
            Re: Variable naming issue Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-25 09:52 -0500
        Re: Variable naming issue Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2017-04-26 08:46 +0200
          Re: Variable naming issue bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-04-26 11:46 +0100
          Re: Variable naming issue bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-04-26 12:00 +0100
        Re: Variable naming issue gordonb.o1c18@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2017-05-07 22:25 -0500
          Re: Variable naming issue bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-08 10:35 +0100
            Re: Variable naming issue bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-08 10:53 +0100
              Re: Variable naming issue David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 11:47 -0700
                Re: Variable naming issue bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-08 19:59 +0100
      Re: Variable naming issue gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-04-25 10:43 +0000
    Re: Variable naming issue Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-25 09:33 -0500
  Re: Variable naming issue Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-04-24 17:26 -0700
    Re: Variable naming issue maximus fl <ajones2600@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 18:18 -0700
  Re: Variable naming issue scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-04-25 14:48 +0000

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