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Re: OT. My household was randomly selected.

From John Devereux <john@devereux.me.uk>
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design
Subject Re: OT. My household was randomly selected.
Date 2017-05-26 16:31 +0100
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tabbypurr@gmail.com writes:

> On Friday, 26 May 2017 10:28:13 UTC+1, whit3rd  wrote:
>> On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 4:00:15 PM UTC-7, tabby wrote:
>> > On Thursday, 25 May 2017 21:57:54 UTC+1, whit3rd  wrote:
>
>> > > Lacking  census data, one cannot authoritatively cry 'waste'.
>> > 
>> > One sure can. 
>> 
>> But, a responsible government "of the people, by the people, for the people" 
>> cannot be effective without knowledge of the  people.
>
> true
>
>> Neither can you, or anyone, know what is effective without data
>> such as the census provides. 
>
> that is patently not true. When I see government funds misused
> routinely to replace things that there's simply nothing wrong with, I
> do know that behaviour is ineffective and grossly wasteful. It goes on
> all the time here.

The question is how does one find what *is* effective.

Otherwise known as evidence based policy. It is a quaint idea that is
out of fashion at the moment (as if it was ever in).


>
>> Ideas about 'waste' without data are ... worthless.
>
> I and many like me have enough data to know they're real. You don't
> need surveys and polls and analyses to know that a library full of 3
> year old desks in almost as new condition being replaced by much the
> same thing is a total waste.

sounds like "the government" unthinking acted without evidence of need
there, doesn't it?



>
> Census data has nothing to do with it.
>
>
> NT

-- 

John Devereux

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OT. My household was randomly selected. amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2017-05-23 09:21 -0500
  Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-23 16:32 +0200
  Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-23 07:45 -0700
    Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. hondgm@yahoo.com - 2017-05-23 08:55 -0700
      Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-23 09:23 -0700
        Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. hondgm@yahoo.com - 2017-05-23 09:50 -0700
          Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-23 10:09 -0700
            Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-24 15:08 +0200
              Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-05-24 06:14 -0700
                Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-24 16:40 +0200
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            Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-25 13:57 -0700
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                Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 00:29 -0400
                Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-26 17:32 -0400
                Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 02:28 -0700
                Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. jurb6006@gmail.com - 2017-05-26 02:34 -0700
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                Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-05-26 04:59 -0700
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                Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-05-26 13:11 -0700
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    Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-05-23 09:35 -0700
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      Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-23 11:28 -0700
        Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. "tom" <tmiller11147@verizon.net> - 2017-05-23 14:38 -0400
    Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-23 11:19 -0700
      Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 16:31 -0400
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          Re: OT. My household was randomly selected. krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-23 20:29 -0400
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