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Re: clang

From Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: clang
Date 2019-03-27 21:37 +0000
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already5chosen@yahoo.com writes:

> On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 8:29:54 PM UTC+2, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> already5chosen@yahoo.com writes:
>> 
>> > On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 4:58:01 PM UTC+2, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> >> already5chosen@yahoo.com writes:
>> >> <of clang>
>> >> > Looks pretty messy and amateurish when one considers that we are
>> >> > talking about best funded compiler development project in the history
>> >> > of digital computing,
>> >> 
>> >> Do you have a citation for that?  It would be interesting to see a few
>> >> compiler projects compared by funding and effort.
>> >
>> > No I have no citation.
>> > But it's common knowledge that LLVM is funded by Apple, which is by
>> > far the richest computer company in the history
>> 
>> That is indeed common knowledge.  It may even be true.  However it's not
>> what you said.  I found what you said interesting, and was hoping for
>> some facts.  How much (in modern terms) did IBM spend on its FORTRAN
>> compiler?  What about ICL's effort to implement Algol 86?  How do these
>> compare with clang funding?  Anyway, without data there is not much more
>> to say.
>
> Do you mean Algol-68?

Yes, thank.  (But I don't think the name is hyphenated.)  What a shame,
though, that we don't have Algol 86!

> One of my co-workers certainly does not know how much they spent, but
> there is chance that he remembers how many people worked on compiler.
> If I ask him tomorrow, would it help?

Yes, but it's not going to be much to go on.  I used to work for ICL,
and I remember the compiler was considered a big deal, but I have no
recollection of numbers.

> However I would think that most expensive compiler development effort
> of these years was IBM's PL-1. Unfortunately, non of my co-workers was
> on the team or near.

And the aborted CPL work was probably a big sink of resources, too.

-- 
Ben.

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