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Re: bike locks and encryption

From Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups comp.programming
Subject Re: bike locks and encryption
Date 2014-10-07 16:24 +0100
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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Richard Heathfield <invalid@see.sig.invalid> writes:

> Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>
>> RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> writes:
>> 
>>> Something occurred to me recntly - bicycle locks
>>> as examples of one way functions, so useful in
>>> encryption.  That is, easy to compute in encryption,
>>> but intractable for decrytion, lacking the key.
>> 
>> I don't think that's a good analogy for a one-way function.  Although
>> all one-way functions have, in some very abstract sense, a "key" (the
>> function's inverse is, I suppose, a key) they are not, usually,
>> invertable with some small amount of data acting as a key.
>
> I think RSA is a counter-example, isn't it? (More on that in a
> second.)

I think you (and the OP) might be confusing trap-door functions with
one-way functions.

<snip>
-- 
Ben.

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bike locks and encryption RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2014-10-06 23:28 -0700
  Re: bike locks and encryption Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-10-07 11:39 +0100
    Re: bike locks and encryption Richard Heathfield <invalid@see.sig.invalid> - 2014-10-07 11:53 +0100
      Re: bike locks and encryption Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-10-07 16:24 +0100
        Re: bike locks and encryption Richard Heathfield <invalid@see.sig.invalid> - 2014-10-07 21:26 +0100
          Re: bike locks and encryption Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-10-08 01:34 +0100
          Re: bike locks and encryption RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2014-10-07 23:16 -0700
      Re: bike locks and encryption RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2014-10-07 23:27 -0700
  Re: bike locks and encryption RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2014-10-07 13:57 -0700
    Re: bike locks and encryption Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-10-07 21:21 +0000
      Re: bike locks and encryption "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2014-10-07 22:33 +0100
        Re: bike locks and encryption Jongware <jongware@no-spam.plz> - 2014-10-08 15:51 +0200
  Re: bike locks and encryption Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-10-07 21:10 +0000
    Re: bike locks and encryption RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2014-10-07 23:34 -0700
      Re: bike locks and encryption Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-10-08 14:10 +0000
        Re: bike locks and encryption RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2014-10-10 18:33 -0700

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