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| From | Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: determines if it is a signed type |
| Date | 2015-05-19 15:03 +0100 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <87d21wk6k4.fsf@bsb.me.uk> (permalink) |
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jadill33@gmail.com writes: > On Tuesday, May 19, 2015 at 5:39:13 AM UTC-4, jacobnavia wrote: >> Le 19/05/2015 02:08, Richard Heathfield a écrit : >> > unsigned long will do fine >> >> In most versions of linux that will be 64 bits. If yu need to be able to >> index just 10000 records you are wasting 4 bytes. If you need binary >> compatibility of the output of a program then you can't do that. >> >> But I do not want to convince you. >> You want to stay in C89? Fine with me. > > Yeah, one of the strongest motivations to use stdint.h is reading/writing > binary protocols in files/sockets. You'll be hard pressed to avoid > problems on multiple platforms without using some mechanism for > defining fixed width types, and stdint.h is well, the standard way > of defining the names of those types. The exact-width types from stdint.h barely scratch the surface of this problem. There are representation issues (endianness being the most common) and packing/alignment issues if you hope to use exact-width types to define a struct you can just fread. And when you have to deal with these issues the simplest solution is very often to store the result in native types (or to use the u?int_leastN_t types from stdint.h), quite possibly in a structure that does not map onto the protocol bytes at all. > I feel that C90 without some kind of stdint.h wrapper is not well poised > to handle this problem space. That's not been my experience, unless you interpret the wrapper as being very thin indeed. About the only really useful typedef is for something a bit like int_least32_t since you can't assume int can store 32 bits and you may not be prepared to pay the cost of using long. -- Ben.
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determines if it is a signed type asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2015-05-17 10:07 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-05-17 18:12 +0100
Re: determines if it is a signed type asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2015-05-17 10:34 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2015-05-17 11:09 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type Kusalananda <kusalananda@example.com> - 2015-05-17 18:22 +0000
Re: determines if it is a signed type asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2015-05-17 11:31 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type Kusalananda <kusalananda@example.com> - 2015-05-17 19:59 +0000
Re: determines if it is a signed type Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-05-17 13:12 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type Morris Dovey <mrdovey@iedu.com> - 2015-05-17 19:08 -0500
Re: determines if it is a signed type Morris Dovey <mrdovey@iedu.com> - 2015-05-17 19:46 -0500
Re: determines if it is a signed type Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-05-18 01:59 +0100
Re: determines if it is a signed type Morris Dovey <mrdovey@iedu.com> - 2015-05-17 20:10 -0500
Re: determines if it is a signed type Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-05-18 00:37 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-05-18 21:15 +0100
Re: determines if it is a signed type Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-05-18 15:15 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-18 21:51 +0000
Re: determines if it is a signed type James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-05-18 18:00 -0400
Re: determines if it is a signed type glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-18 14:37 +0000
Re: determines if it is a signed type jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-05-18 17:09 +0200
Re: determines if it is a signed type glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-18 18:14 +0000
Re: determines if it is a signed type Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-05-18 06:34 +0100
Re: determines if it is a signed type Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-05-18 00:43 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-05-18 13:56 +0100
Re: determines if it is a signed type Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-05-18 08:00 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-05-18 20:35 +0100
Re: determines if it is a signed type jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-05-18 23:08 +0200
Re: determines if it is a signed type Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-05-18 22:32 +0100
Re: determines if it is a signed type jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-05-19 00:44 +0200
Re: determines if it is a signed type Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-05-19 00:05 +0100
Re: determines if it is a signed type jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-05-19 01:43 +0200
Re: determines if it is a signed type Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-05-19 01:08 +0100
Re: determines if it is a signed type "Bartc" <bartc@freeuk.com> - 2015-05-19 11:33 +0100
Re: determines if it is a signed type Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-05-19 08:15 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type "Bartc" <bartc@freeuk.com> - 2015-05-19 19:36 +0100
Re: determines if it is a signed type Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-05-19 11:55 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-05-19 11:39 +0200
Re: determines if it is a signed type "Bartc" <bartc@freeuk.com> - 2015-05-19 11:44 +0100
Re: determines if it is a signed type jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-05-19 12:11 +0200
Re: determines if it is a signed type jadill33@gmail.com - 2015-05-19 05:45 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-05-19 15:03 +0100
Re: determines if it is a signed type jadill33@gmail.com - 2015-05-19 08:46 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-05-19 17:08 +0100
Re: determines if it is a signed type jadill33@gmail.com - 2015-05-19 09:52 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-05-19 20:36 +0100
Re: determines if it is a signed type jadill33@gmail.com - 2015-05-20 07:40 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-05-20 23:12 +0100
Re: determines if it is a signed type jadill33@gmail.com - 2015-05-21 13:52 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-05-21 22:48 +0100
Re: determines if it is a signed type jadill33@gmail.com - 2015-05-22 05:50 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-05-22 23:14 +0100
Re: determines if it is a signed type jadill33@gmail.com - 2015-05-26 14:31 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-22 23:32 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-05-20 12:26 +0200
Re: determines if it is a signed type Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-05-19 15:28 +0100
Re: determines if it is a signed type raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-05-23 10:37 +0000
Re: determines if it is a signed type Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-05-18 15:21 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-05-19 00:04 +0100
Re: determines if it is a signed type Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-05-19 08:03 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-05-19 08:47 +0200
Re: determines if it is a signed type Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-05-19 08:07 -0700
Re: determines if it is a signed type James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-05-18 11:28 -0400
Re: determines if it is a signed type Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-05-18 00:40 -0700
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