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Re: Chip shortage--use relays

From	Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers
Subject	Re: Chip shortage--use relays
Date	2021-07-14 16:47 -0300
Organization	Bridgewater Institute for Advanced Study - Blacksmith Shop
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Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:

> Forget fuel economy and emissions requirements - they're trivial
> compared to the real driver for chips - infotainment systems to
> keep you distracted, backup cameras and lane drift detection and
> automatic braking to save your ass now that you're distracted...
> 
> I dread the day my 2007 Civic gives up the ghost.  I just pray
> that I'll be able to find a car that will shut up and do what
> I tell it.  Maybe it's time to get into vintage cars...

My feeling, too.  I'd go for a 1970s Land Rover, fully restored on a
stainless or galvanized frame -- about the same price as a low-end new
car.  Only I'm too old to change a tie rod end in a snowbank or
replace a defective carb float or fuel pump in the rain -- the kind of
thing I routinely did until a decade or so ago.  And where do I find a
good mechanic who even knows what a carburetor is?

I'm almost 80 and don't have the stamina or limberness to spend a day
crawling around under or bending over cars.  In 1968, a Blond Babe
came into the shop with am early '30s Chevrolet that had braking only
on one wheel.  We had no idea how to fix it.  Except!  We had one
mechanic who was 80 years old that year.  He announced that he had
worked on that model when they were new, knew just what to do to
repair an all-mechanical, non-hydraulic braking system.  He even owned
obsolete tools needed for the job.  Took him two days but it was
working perfectaly when he was done.  Wish I had his stamina!

General consumer goods may have deteriorated in quality across the
board but cars have improved enormously. Fifty years ago, a car that
hit 100,000 miles was a rare specimen and ones that needed expensive
major work by 40,000 mi. were commonplace.  No longer true.

So I fear that if/when my now very reliable Toy Ota becomes
unreliable, I'll be obliged to be assimilated by the auto-borg.

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

Thread

Chip shortage--use relays undefined Hancock-4 <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> - 2021-07-07 12:28 -0700
  Re: Chip shortage--use relays Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-07-07 20:48 +0100
    Re: Chip shortage--use relays Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-07-07 16:40 -0400
      Re: Chip shortage--use relays undefined Hancock-4 <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> - 2021-07-13 15:25 -0700
      Re: Chip shortage--use relays antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2021-07-13 23:28 +0000
        Re: Chip shortage--use relays scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-07-14 00:22 +0000
          Re: Chip shortage--use relays Freddy1X <freddy1X@indyX.netX> - 2021-07-13 21:00 -0400
          Re: Chip shortage--use relays Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-07-14 02:41 -0300
            Re: Chip shortage--use relays J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-07-14 05:57 -0400
        Re: Chip shortage--use relays Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-07-14 18:53 -0400
  Re: Chip shortage--use relays Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-07-07 20:42 +0100
    Re: Chip shortage--use relays Robin Vowels <robin.vowels@gmail.com> - 2021-07-07 23:25 -0700
      Re: Chip shortage--use relays undefined Hancock-4 <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> - 2021-07-13 15:23 -0700
        Re: Chip shortage--use relays Robert Netzlof <rnetzlof@gmail.com> - 2021-07-14 12:43 -0700
          Re: Chip shortage--use relays undefined Hancock-4 <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> - 2021-07-16 11:10 -0700
  Re: Chip shortage--use relays antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2021-07-13 23:17 +0000
    Re: Chip shortage--use relays Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-07-13 19:28 -0400
      Re: Chip shortage--use relays antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2021-07-14 11:33 +0000
    Re: Chip shortage--use relays gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-07-14 13:06 +0100
    Re: Chip shortage--use relays drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-08-17 12:47 -0500
      Re: Chip shortage--use relays Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-08-17 20:27 +0100
  Re: Chip shortage--use relays Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-07-14 10:12 -0700
    Re: Chip shortage--use relays Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-07-14 19:29 +0100
    Re: Chip shortage--use relays Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-07-14 18:40 +0000
      Re: Chip shortage--use relays Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-07-14 16:47 -0300
        Re: Chip shortage--use relays Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-07-14 18:18 -0700
          Re: Chip shortage--use relays Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-07-16 02:26 -0300
        Re: Chip shortage--use relays greymaus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-07-15 19:36 +0000
      Re: Chip shortage--use relays "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-ugr-this> - 2021-07-15 07:27 -0700
        Re: Chip shortage--use relays Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-07-15 14:04 -0700
          Re: Chip shortage--use relays Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-07-16 00:00 +0000
            Re: Chip shortage--use relays Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-07-15 20:43 -0400
              Re: Chip shortage--use relays Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-07-16 10:56 -0700
            Re: Chip shortage--use relays songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-07-15 20:46 -0400
            Re: Chip shortage--use relays Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-07-16 02:53 -0300
              Re: Chip shortage--use relays Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-07-16 08:08 -0400
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-07-16 13:20 +0100
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-07-16 16:27 -0400
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-07-16 16:32 +0000
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-07-16 16:49 +0000
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-07-16 19:14 -0400
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays undefined Hancock-4 <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> - 2021-07-16 11:54 -0700
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-07-16 22:40 +0000
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-07-16 17:28 -0300
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-07-16 22:40 +0000
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays undefined Hancock-4 <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> - 2021-07-20 11:41 -0700
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-odi-this> - 2021-07-17 07:18 -0700
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-07-16 10:56 -0700
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays undefined Hancock-4 <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> - 2021-07-16 11:51 -0700
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2021-07-16 19:51 +0000
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-07-17 07:06 -0700
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-07-17 14:42 +0000
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-07-17 17:29 +0100
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays greymaus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-07-18 07:52 +0000
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays undefined Hancock-4 <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> - 2021-07-20 11:47 -0700
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-07-20 20:13 +0100
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2021-07-17 20:39 +0000
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-07-18 06:28 +0100
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-07-18 07:46 -0700
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-07-18 07:45 -0700
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-07-18 11:15 -0400
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-07-18 11:18 -0400
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-07-18 14:08 -0400
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-07-18 19:41 +0000
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-07-18 16:08 -0400
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-07-18 16:43 -0400
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-07-18 23:19 +0000
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-r25-this> - 2021-07-19 08:26 -0700
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-07-19 16:50 +0000
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-07-19 18:13 +0100
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-07-19 18:51 +0000
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2021-07-20 18:05 +0000
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-f2b-this> - 2021-07-20 07:36 -0700
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-07-20 16:17 +0000
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-07-19 20:13 +0000
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-07-18 16:30 -0700
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-07-18 01:53 -0500
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2021-07-18 08:25 -0600
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays undefined Hancock-4 <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> - 2021-07-20 11:45 -0700
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-07-21 17:30 -0500
                Re: Chip shortage--use relays greymaus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-07-22 10:46 +0000
      Re: Chip shortage--use relays Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2021-07-15 11:09 -0700
        Re: Chip shortage--use relays cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2021-07-15 22:07 -0500
      Re: Chip shortage--use relays undefined Hancock-4 <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> - 2021-07-16 11:09 -0700
        Re: Chip shortage--use relays J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-07-16 17:25 -0400
          Re: Chip shortage--use relays Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-07-17 07:09 -0700
            Re: Chip shortage--use relays Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-07-17 07:11 -0700
            Re: Chip shortage--use relays J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-07-17 11:48 -0400
      Re: Chip shortage--use relays undefined Hancock-4 <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> - 2021-07-20 11:52 -0700
    Re: Chip shortage--use relays undefined Hancock-4 <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> - 2021-07-16 11:49 -0700
  Re: Chip shortage--use relays John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-07-16 01:51 +0000

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