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Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise)

From Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups comp.theory
Subject Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise)
Date 2022-05-04 14:48 +0100
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Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> writes:

> On 04/05/2022 12:04, Ben wrote:
>> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> writes:
>>> Zero doesn't have a physical representation. So Roman numbers didn't have
>>> the concept.
>> I think this is a common myth.  The concept of zero is quite different
>> from the numeral.  The Romans used abacuses for calculations so there
>> was a very natural physical representation both for zero (an empty
>> counting board) and for zero counters in one or other column.
>
> 	Partly agreed.  But there are other myths and confusions which are
> quite near the surface in the above.  Zero as a placeholder in a column of
> an abacus is quite different from zero as a number.

I hope you don't think I implied they were the same.  My point was that
the concept of zero things is very natural, even if it expressed without
that word.

> If you ask a farmer
> how many sheep he has, he might say "four" or "216";  he is unlikely to
> say "zero" [rather, "I don't have any sheep"], and [FWIW] very unlikely to
> say "minus three".  Even if 0 and -3 exist for some purposes, they were not
> thought to be /numbers/ until relatively recently, whereas the answer to
> "How many ...?" is expected to be a number.

I think that some quite old Chinese, Indian and Mayan text would suggest
otherwise.  Of course it's hard to cross the cultural chasm and work out
who had the concept of zero "as a number", but even if you don't rate my
interpretation of the textual evidence, every culture will have had an
answer to "how many sheep do you have now that they've all starved?".
Is that "none as a number"?  I don't think that's an easy question to
answer.

> So 0 and -3 were as "nutty"
> to most people, however useful in mathematics, as "i" is to PO and others
> today.  Luckily, I doubt whether PO has yet discovered "j" and "k" as
> further square roots of -1, or his "nuttiness" would know no bounds;  yet
> quaternions are a natural route into [very practical!] relativity.
>
> 	One of the problems with 0 as a number is that inventories and
> other lists become ill-specified.  It's one thing to say that this farm
> has 216 sheep, 42 cows and three horses, but once you start adding in
> that there are zero pigs, zero giraffes, zero unicorns, ..., where do
> you stop?
>
> 	Separately, there is a persistent myth that Roman numerals are
> unsuitable for use in arithmetic.  Not so.  As long as your numbers don't
> exceed a few thousand, they are as easy to use as Arabic numerals;  and
> for large/tiny numbers, you can do what everyone did until recently and
> invent new units [such as acres rather than square yards].

Yes, and the calculations where often done with a place-holder abacus.
The subtractive notation for numbers like IX and IV was a relatively
late contraction and, I believe, not universally used even when it
became common for ceremonial use (for dates and names and the like).

-- 
Ben.

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On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-02 16:47 +0100
  Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-02 11:18 -0500
    Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-02 17:39 +0100
      Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-02 15:28 -0500
        Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-03 00:10 +0100
          Re: H(P,P) == false is correct olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 21:07 -0500
            Re: H(P,P) == false is correct Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-04 15:16 +0100
              Re: H(P,P) == false is correct olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 14:27 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-05 01:59 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 20:19 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-05 03:28 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 21:55 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 19:59 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 22:09 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-04 21:17 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 22:35 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-04 21:38 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 22:42 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 20:50 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 22:58 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 21:07 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 23:48 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-05 07:51 -0400
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-05 07:50 -0400
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 04:57 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 13:01 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 11:03 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 13:45 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 11:50 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 16:43 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 20:20 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 22:38 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 20:43 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 22:54 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 21:12 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 23:49 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 04:54 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 11:12 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 09:20 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 13:32 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-05 07:56 -0400
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-05 07:54 -0400
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 05:27 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-05 14:14 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 16:53 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 15:11 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 17:31 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-05 22:43 -0400
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 12:17 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 10:28 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 13:39 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 11:52 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 16:47 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 15:06 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 17:28 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 15:42 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 20:06 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 18:17 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 20:36 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 18:59 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 21:08 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 19:18 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 21:33 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 19:50 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 01:35 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-06 07:52 -0400
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-05 20:51 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 14:07 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-06 13:14 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 14:29 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-05 07:46 -0400
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-05 14:29 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 17:12 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-05-06 02:58 +0200
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 20:01 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-05-06 03:34 +0200
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-06 03:35 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 21:57 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 22:29 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-06 12:36 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 11:33 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-07 02:57 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 21:22 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-08 00:01 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-07 18:45 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-08 00:59 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-07 12:31 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 23:48 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-05 23:01 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 00:12 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-06 07:36 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 10:32 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-06 09:43 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 11:45 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-06 11:01 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 13:03 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-06 12:18 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 13:50 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-06 13:05 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 14:19 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-06 13:23 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 14:34 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-06 13:37 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 14:48 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-07 00:47 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 18:59 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-07 03:04 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 21:26 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 23:03 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 00:55 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-05 22:51 -0400
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-06 12:42 +0300
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 14:09 -0500
    Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-03 12:36 +0300
      Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 04:08 -0700
        Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 09:33 -0500
          Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 09:41 -0700
            Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 11:57 -0500
              Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2022-05-03 12:53 -0600
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-03 13:02 -0600
              Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-03 19:59 +0100
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 14:05 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 14:51 -0700
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2022-05-03 16:06 -0600
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 17:15 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 17:11 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-04 12:04 +0100
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2022-05-04 14:04 +0100
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-04 14:48 +0100
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-05-04 00:21 +0200
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 17:40 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-05-04 00:46 +0200
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 17:49 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-05-04 01:05 +0200
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 18:48 -0500
          Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-04 12:15 +0100
            Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 11:24 -0500
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      Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 09:38 -0500
        Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-03 20:17 +0300
          Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 13:06 -0500
            Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-04 10:19 +0300
              Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 12:57 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-04 18:53 -0400
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-05 12:37 +0300
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 12:52 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-06 12:23 +0300
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 14:14 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-07 11:42 +0300
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-07 11:16 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-08 11:21 +0300
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-09 10:41 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-09 19:45 +0300
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-09 12:11 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-09 19:21 -0400
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-10 10:34 +0300
          Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 13:13 -0500
            Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-03 21:58 -0400
  Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-02 18:32 -0400
    Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-02 23:38 +0100
      Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-02 18:46 -0400
        Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-02 23:47 +0100
          Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-02 19:16 -0400
            Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-03 00:30 +0100
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                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-03 20:06 +0100
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                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-04 12:24 +0100
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-03 21:54 -0400
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-04 17:40 +0100
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 12:46 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-04 19:23 -0400
          Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-02 19:35 -0500
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                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 08:36 -0700
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 11:39 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 14:49 -0700
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 17:08 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 15:21 -0700
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 17:32 -0500
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        Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 13:13 -0500
          Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-03 21:38 -0400
          Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-09 19:58 +0300
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              Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-09 19:30 -0400
              Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) wij <wyniijj2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-10 08:40 -0700
      Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-03 21:41 -0400
    Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-03 19:26 +0100
      Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-04 10:31 +0300
        Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 13:09 -0500
          Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-08 11:09 +0300
            Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-09 10:39 -0500
              Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-09 19:48 +0300
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-09 12:12 -0500
  Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-05 12:19 +0300
    Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-05 17:54 +0100
      Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-05 22:56 -0400
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        Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 17:16 -0500
          Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-06 02:21 +0100
            Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 20:37 -0500
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