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Re: Pine 64

From Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Pine 64
Date 2016-12-29 14:22 +0000
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David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
<snip>
> Most people see it as an advantage that there are a wide range of
> programming languages to choose from, as different languages have their
> strengths and weaknesses.
>
> You, apparently, see it as a disadvantage.  And your grand solution for
> your invented problem is ... wait for it ... to invent a /new/ language!
>  And this vapourware language that exists only as vague ideas in your
> own mind, is to be a new version of "B" - a language that only really
> existed for about 2 or 3 years, nearly 50 years ago, before being
> superseded by C.

B actually did have a life of it's own after C, though I agree it was
specialised and relatively short-lived.

I may be unique here in having written an actual program in B.  As a
teenager in the late '70s, I wanted to write a chess program and B
seemed like the best choice on the Honeywell mainframe I had access to.
As I recall, there were quite a system utilities on that machine were
written in B, but that may only have been local customisation.

It would be a hoot to look at that chess program now -- what a mess it
must have been.  It moved with me from house to house, along with all
sorts of other ancient programs, on a 9-track tape but at some point it
just got lost.

> But B64 will be the "scalable, interface-friendly,
> standardised method of programming computers"!
>
> You don't lack in ambition for your language, even if it lacks
> everything else.

There are modern typeless languages which would give a sound footing for
a new one if nothing else, but I think Malcolm wants to go it alone.

For example MCPL, derived from BCPL, is the result of about 5 decades of
experience designing an using typeless languages for systems programming
on everything from both small embedded devices and to mainframes.  It
uses ML-style pattern matching to deconstruct data.

-- 
Ben.

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Pine 64 jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-12-27 23:44 +0100
  Re: Pine 64 raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-12-27 22:54 +0000
    Re: Pine 64 jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-12-28 00:41 +0100
      Re: Pine 64 raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-12-28 12:14 +0000
    Re: Pine 64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-12-28 13:39 +0100
      Re: Pine 64 raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-12-28 12:45 +0000
        Re: Pine 64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-12-28 14:02 +0100
          Re: Pine 64 Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-12-28 10:11 -0800
            Re: Pine 64 Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-12-28 10:50 -0800
            Re: Pine 64 jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-12-28 22:55 +0100
              Re: Pine 64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-12-29 12:21 +0100
                Re: Pine 64 jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-12-29 21:38 +0100
                Re: Pine 64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-12-30 10:10 +0100
            Re: Pine 64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-12-28 21:53 +0100
            Re: Pine 64 raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-12-28 19:54 +0000
  Re: Pine 64 Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2016-12-27 18:03 -0500
    Re: Pine 64 jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-12-28 00:36 +0100
      Re: Pine 64 Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2016-12-27 18:44 -0500
        Re: Pine 64 jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-12-28 00:54 +0100
  Re: Pine 64 Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-12-28 11:27 +0100
    Re: Pine 64 jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-12-28 12:10 +0100
      Re: Pine 64 Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-12-28 12:59 +0100
  Re: Pine 64 Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-12-28 10:10 -0800
    Re: Pine 64 supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-12-29 08:30 -0800
    Re: Pine 64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-12-29 13:22 +0100
      Re: Pine 64 Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-12-29 07:47 -0800
        Re: Pine 64 Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-12-29 17:03 +0000
      Re: Pine 64 Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-12-29 04:50 -0800
        Re: Pine 64 Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2016-12-29 21:25 +0800
      Re: Pine 64 Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-12-29 09:28 -0800
      Re: Pine 64 Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-12-29 14:22 +0000
    Re: Pine 64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-12-29 13:28 +0100
    Re: Pine 64 Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-12-28 14:12 -0800
      Re: Pine 64 BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-12-28 22:23 +0000
      Re: Pine 64 Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2016-12-29 18:43 +0000
    Re: Pine 64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-12-28 21:59 +0100
    Re: Pine 64 jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-12-28 23:43 +0100
    Re: Pine 64 jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2016-12-28 22:56 +0000
      Re: Pine 64 Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-12-28 16:00 -0800
        Re: A programming language called 'B64' Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-12-30 16:08 +0100

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