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Re: remote access with gui.

From Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.windows.x, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: remote access with gui.
Date 2012-07-09 14:07 +0700
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
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>>>>> Aaron W Hsu <arcfide@sacrideo.us> writes:
>>>>> Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:

	[Cross-posting to news:comp.windows.x.]

 >> Using X forwarding over something like a 3Mb DSL link just doesn't
 >> work these days for anything fancier than xterm: Things like Gnome
 >> or KDE apps are completely out of the question in my experience.

 > I have ranted on this before.  Modern toolkits and their use largely
 > ignore and duplicate functionality that is in the core X or common
 > libraries, and this results in massive amounts of rendering waste,
 > easily detectable on a X-forwarded connection.

	I still remember playing some X games over a 14400 bit/s modem
	connection.

[...]

 > I find that to be my preferred solution instead of going VNC unless I
 > need to share a screen with others.

	Though, ISTR, there were (are?) solutions for "screen sharing"
	based on the X protocol.

[...]

 > I recommend looking for applications written in toolkits like Motif,
 > (install OpenMotif instead of using lesstif, though),

	... Or vice versa, for those preferring free software.
	(Open Motif is /not/ free software, according to either the FSF
	definition or DFSG.  It's part of "non-Debian" non-free, for
	instance.)

 > Xlib, Xt, or some of the other lesser known toolkits.  By default
 > they look dated due to the default theming, but it is fairly
 > straightforward to get them looking clean and modern.

	It's my guess that it's up to /us/, the ones interested in Xt,
	to create such themes.

 > Once you have that, your experiences in remote GUI use will be much
 > improved, IMO.

	My guess is that there're quite a few "broken" Xt applications,
	including those performing needless refreshes.

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Re: remote access with gui. Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2012-07-09 14:07 +0700

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