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on understanding & and pointer arithmetic

From Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject on understanding & and pointer arithmetic
Date 2021-12-16 11:13 -0300
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID <86a6h0eiy9.fsf@levado.to> (permalink)

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I'm investigating the syntax array[index] and I'm getting surprised at
some places.  My intuition says that a[3] is the same as a + 3.  I also
know that /&a/ is the same as /a/.  I first expected the following
program to print ``lo, world\n'' three times, but it does not.

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
#include <stdio.h>
int main() {
  char a[] = "hello, world";
  printf("a: %s\n", &a[3]);
  printf("a: %s\n", a + 3);
  printf("a: %s\n", &a + 3);
}
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

%./hello.exe
a: lo, world
a: lo, world
a: ▒
%

I think part of my problem is a type-confusion I'm making.  The type of
a + 3 must still be (char *) while the third one must be some other
type?

I get the my-expected result this way:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
#include <stdio.h>
int main() {
  char a[] = "hello, world";
  printf("a: %s\n", &a[3]);
  printf("a: %s\n", a + 3);
  printf("a: %s\n", (char*) &a + 3);
}
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

So I think I must correct my intuition to remember that &var does not
produce a type ``char *''.  What does it produce?  Which reference could
I check to see an official statement of the fact?

My real request is --- can you educate me on this matter?  I don't think
I'm looking at things in the proper way.  For example, 

  printf("a: %s\n", (char*) (&a + 3));

produces the garbage I saw before.

Trying to see what's going on, I wrote

  printf("a: %p\n", a);
  printf("a: %p\n", a + 3);
  printf("a: %p\n", &a + 3);

and I got

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
%./hello.exe
a: 0xffffcc33
a: 0xffffcc36
a: 0xffffcc5a
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

which illustrates my misunderstanding.  I expected the two last lines to
print ``a: 0xffffcc36'', but somehow ``&a + 3'' yields ``0xffffcc5a''
and not the 3 bytes further from 0xffffcc33 that I expected.

Thank you so much.

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on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to> - 2021-12-16 11:13 -0300
  Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2021-12-16 14:23 +0000
    Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to> - 2021-12-16 11:57 -0300
      Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2021-12-16 17:42 +0000
        Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2021-12-16 18:14 +0000
          Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2021-12-16 21:14 +0000
        Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to> - 2021-12-16 16:42 -0300
          Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-12-16 12:44 -0800
            Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to> - 2021-12-18 12:06 -0300
          Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2021-12-16 21:34 +0000
            Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-12-16 14:14 -0800
              Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2021-12-16 23:44 +0000
            Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to> - 2021-12-18 12:09 -0300
  Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-12-16 16:23 +0100
    Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to> - 2021-12-16 16:25 -0300
      Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-12-16 21:08 +0100
        Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-12-16 12:54 -0800
          Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-12-17 10:53 +0100
            Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to> - 2021-12-18 11:39 -0300
              Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-12-18 16:31 +0000
              Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-12-18 18:56 +0100
                Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to> - 2021-12-25 21:29 -0300
              Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2021-12-18 18:29 +0000
        Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to> - 2021-12-18 11:32 -0300
    Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2021-12-16 21:34 +0100
      Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2021-12-16 22:20 +0000
        Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to> - 2021-12-18 12:02 -0300
          Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to> - 2021-12-18 12:34 -0300
          Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2021-12-18 18:36 +0100
          Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2021-12-18 21:17 +0000
      Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-12-16 18:59 -0500
  Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-12-16 18:38 -0500
    Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2021-12-16 23:50 +0000
      Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic "james...@alumni.caltech.edu" <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-12-17 07:34 -0800
        Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2021-12-17 17:48 +0000
    Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2021-12-16 23:56 +0000
      Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-12-16 19:06 -0500
        Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2021-12-17 00:10 +0000
        Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to> - 2021-12-18 12:32 -0300
    Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to> - 2021-12-18 12:30 -0300
  Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-12-17 11:08 +0100
    Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2021-12-17 16:24 +0100
      Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-12-17 18:17 +0100
    Re: on understanding & and pointer arithmetic Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to> - 2021-12-18 12:11 -0300

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