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| From | wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c++ |
| Subject | Re: What is OOP? |
| Date | 2024-12-02 16:49 +0800 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <853d65692ada3865dafc2c6010539ed20e4e348c.camel@gmail.com> (permalink) |
| References | <d8a5a0d563f0b9b78b34711d12d4975a7941f53a.camel@gmail.com> <86frn6og85.fsf@linuxsc.com> |
On Sun, 2024-12-01 at 20:34 -0800, Tim Rentsch wrote:
> wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> writes:
>
> In response to the question of the subject line...
>
> Just because a program is being written in a language that has
> functions doesn't mean that what is being done is functional
> programming.
>
> Just because a program is being written in a language that has
> classes and objects doesn't mean that what is being done is
> object-oriented programming.
>
> More than anything else object-oriented programming is a mindset
> or a programming methodology. It helps if the language being
> used supports classes, etc, but the methodology can be used even
> in languages that don't have them.
>
> A quote:
>
> My guess is that object-oriented programming will be in the
> 1980s what structured programming was in the 1970s.
> Everyone will be in favor of it. Every manufacturer will
> promote his products as supporting it. Every manager will
> pay lip service to it. Every programmer will practice it
> (differently). And no one will know just what it is.
>
> That paragraph is taken from a paper written more than 40 years
> ago. The prediction came true with a vengeance, even more than
> the author expected. Most of what has been written about object
> oriented programming was done by people who didn't understand it.
>
> Two more quotes, these from Alan Kay:
>
> I invented the term "Object Oriented Programming," and C++
> is not what I had in mind.
>
> Though Smalltalk's structure allows the technique now known
> as data abstraction to be easily (and more generally)
> employed, the entire thrust of its design has been to
> supersede the concept of data and procedures entirely; to
> replace these with the more generally useful notions of
> activity, communication, and inheritance.
Thanks for those information (I did not particularly study 'OOP').
From my >20 years of practice, I would say the object+action model
works nearly perfectly. Particularly it is the same idea with
abstract algebra. IOW, OOP is programming abstract algebra for
general problems.
I recently read a book (translation version)
https://www.amazon.com/Mind-Motion-Action-Shapes-Thought/dp/046509306X
OO is probably also how our brain works. So, yes, we don't absolutely need OO
language to program in OO, OO is natural (thou C++ is very suitable. And, there
may be other kind of good programming model).
Note: A point in 'the' inheritance theory of OO is seriously false.
I can't say it right now, it is about inherited class has to delete
inherited member.
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Re: What is OOP? --- The most important aspect of OOP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 14:07 -0600
Re: What is OOP? --- The most important aspect of OOP Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-09 09:51 -0800
Re: What is OOP? --- The most important aspect of OOP Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 17:43 -0800
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Re: What is OOP? --- The most important aspect of OOP wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 00:32 +0800
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Re: What is OOP? wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-03-29 11:12 +0800
Re: What is OOP? Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-03-29 05:07 +0000
Re: What is OOP? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-29 20:39 +0300
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