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Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ?

From torbenm@diku.dk (Torben Ægidius Mogensen)
Newsgroups comp.arch
Subject Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ?
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Date 2011-05-09 16:31 +0200
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whygee <yg@yg.yg> writes:

> Hello,
>
> I hope that the old guard here can provide some wisdom and knowledge :-)
>
> In the context of a fixed-size instruction and byte-oriented computer architecture,
> such as ARMv7, MIPS, SPARC and so on, the Least Significant Bit of the instruction
> pointer is wasted and cleared.
>
> ARM Thumb uses it to define the current instruction set mode,
> which makes a lot of sense for them.
>
> So can people here tell me what other uses of this LSB have
> been tried in the past ?


Early ARM processors used the last two bits of the PC to store the
processor mode.  This was long before Thumb, so the modes were user,
supervisor, interrupt and fast interrupt.  The same ARMs also used the
top four bits of the PC to store arithemtic flags.  This had the
advantage that you could store both PC and flags using a single word,
but it limited the PC to a 256 MB range.  Later ARM designs moved both
flags and processor status to a separate (unnumbered) register and later
still Thumb used the lsb to indicate 16/32-bit mode.

If you want to use the lsb for something, I suggest it is for something
that is useful to change and/or preserve across jumps or calls, as you
can change/save it along with the PC.

	Torben

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What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? whygee <yg@yg.yg> - 2011-05-08 23:01 +0200
  Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? kym@kymhorsell.com - 2011-05-09 04:07 +0000
    Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? whygee <yg@yg.yg> - 2011-05-09 08:45 +0200
  Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? "robertwessel2@yahoo.com" <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2011-05-08 23:58 -0700
    Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? whygee <yg@yg.yg> - 2011-05-09 09:02 +0200
      Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-05-09 09:43 -0700
    Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? MitchAlsup <MitchAlsup@aol.com> - 2011-05-09 09:38 -0700
      Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? "robertwessel2@yahoo.com" <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2011-05-09 11:14 -0700
      Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2011-05-09 14:51 -0400
  Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? torbenm@diku.dk (Torben Ægidius Mogensen) - 2011-05-09 16:31 +0200
    Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? whygee <yg@yg.yg> - 2011-05-09 18:16 +0200
      Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? mac <acolvin@efunct.com> - 2011-05-09 17:27 +0000
        Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? whygee <yg@yg.yg> - 2011-05-09 19:38 +0200
          Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2011-05-09 20:23 -0500
            Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? whygee <yg@yg.yg> - 2011-05-10 03:04 +0200
            Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-05-11 14:23 -0700
              Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? whygee <yg@yg.yg> - 2011-05-12 02:45 +0200
                Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-05-12 20:41 -0700
                Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2011-05-14 23:24 -0400
                Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-05-15 09:18 -0700
                Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2011-05-15 10:00 -0700
                Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-05-15 12:06 -0700
                Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-05-15 12:12 -0700
                Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2011-05-15 16:16 -0700
                Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-05-15 20:58 +0100
                Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2011-05-15 15:59 -0700
                Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-05-16 08:58 +0100
                Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-05-16 07:43 -0700
                Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> - 2011-05-16 22:46 +0200
                Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? timcaffrey@aol.com (Tim McCaffrey) - 2011-05-19 16:13 +0000
                Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2011-05-15 20:33 -0400
      Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? whygee <yg@yg.yg> - 2011-05-11 05:53 +0200
        Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? whygee <yg@yg.yg> - 2011-05-11 07:10 +0200
  Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-07-04 09:39 -0700
    Re: What are the various alternate uses for the PC's LSB ? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-07-04 10:23 -0700

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