Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless

From	jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
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Subject	Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless
Date	2015-10-26 20:52 +0000
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Ross A. Finlayson <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:16:10 PM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> Ross A. Finlayson <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 12:16:08 PM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> >> Ross A. Finlayson <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 10:31:05 AM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> >> >> Ross A. Finlayson <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 8:02:40 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 6:52:28 AM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> >> >> >> > The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless
>> >> >> >> > > http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/The-FCC-Lays-the-Foundation-for-UltraFast-5G-Wireless-135457
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > > "It was once thought that frequencies above 28GHz could not support
>> >> >> >> > > mobile services because their wavelengths were too short and the
>> >> >> >> > > signal propagation losses were too high," FCC Commissioner Mignon
>> >> >> >> > > Clyburn said. "But industry engineers have now turned these
>> >> >> >> > > weaknesses into strengths by finding ways to use short wavelengths to
>> >> >> >> > > build dynamic beam-forming antennas to support high-capacity networks
>> >> >> >> > > that are small enough to fit into handsets."
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> EM radiation is hazardous in the environment, 
>> >> >> >> a "Clean, Quiet Air Act" is in the line for 
>> >> >> >> necessary preservations of the environment for 
>> >> >> >> the support of human development, generally.  
>> >> >> >> The "Clean Air Act" was to reduce to remove 
>> >> >> >> poisons in the air, the "Quiet Air Act" is to 
>> >> >> >> reduce EM radiation of microwave radio 
>> >> >> >> transmissions to suitably low threshold levels.
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> Two bins of lab mice A and B: throw a cell phone 
>> >> >> >> in a bin, it's occupants fare degeneratively 
>> >> >> >> over generations (i.e. as of their physiology).
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_and_function_of_meiosis
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> WiFi?  _Plug it back in_.
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> That's what compression and _not wasting 
>> >> >> >> bandwidth_ is for.
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > The ongoing massive rollout of distributed microwave 
>> >> >> > radio transmissions poses an ecological hazard to 
>> >> >> > human life.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> This has been studied to death by just about every first world nation
>> >> >> on the planet for MANY decades now and NO adverse health effects have
>> >> >> ever been found.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Extremely high levels of RF energy, i.e. many orders of magnitude higher
>> >> >> than cell phones or cell phone towers, do have adverse effects on humans
>> >> >> which is why the FCC has rules for HIGH POWER RF exposure.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> https://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/radio-frequency-safety
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> The EPA is NOT the place to look for information on RF energy.
>> >> >> 
>> >> > 
>> >> > A usual example is waste-well water.
>> >> 
>> >> Example of what, exactly?
>> >> 
>> >> That you have no clue who does what in the real world?
>> >> 
>> >> > "If that's clean water, you can drink it right here."
>> >> > 
>> >> > Example, if you are immune to any health effects from 
>> >> > radio frequency (and microwave radiation, as for example 
>> >> > scatters), you won't mind a mobile tower in your yard.
>> >> 
>> >> No, I wouldn't; I would be getting paid for getting excellent cell
>> >> service.
>> >> 
>> >> And you miss the point entirely; study after study after study around
>> >> the world for many decades has found NO, ZERO, NONE health effects
>> >> from cell towers.
>> >> 
>> >> If you were talking about a 20 Megawatt radar, that would be a different
>> >> story.
>> >> 
>> >> > Or, perhaps that's "not in my backyard".
>> >> 
>> >> As a matter of fact, my backyard has always been full of antennas.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> > 
>> > http://www.arrl.org
>> 
>> You ought to read some of the articles there and learn something.
>> 
>> > https://www.google.com/#q=%22cell+tower%22+health
>> > (Googling:  sampling the mass delusion.)
>> 
>> Yes, there are lots of kooks that think cell towers effect their health,
>> even after decades of studies that show otherwise, kook.
>> 
>> > You _do_ know that if you toss a wad of foil in the field, 
>> > it reflects a wide variety of disorganized signal(s).
>> 
>> Utter nonsense.
>> 
> 
> You might try it in the microwave oven, 
> but, I don't recommend it.  (There are 
> some suitable uses of microwave heating 
> for smeltering, not to be getting into 
> that here.)

Non sequitur.

Reflection does not result in "disorganized signal(s)"; this is just
babble.

>> If you actually read some of the articles from your first link, you
>> might not continue to sound like an ignorant kook.
>> 
>> 
>> > How are your beehives?
>> 
>> No beehives anywhere around here, kook.
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> I know you have to go out and poison all 
> the ants crawling all over the transformers 
> every now and then, but, how are the beehives?

What transformers would that be, kook?

> Where are the beehives?

Out in the country; I live in the city.

> Jim, I'll thank you to keep your kook to 
> yourself, I'm pretty thick-skinned and used 
> to brushing off aspersion, but your attitude 
> might too easily hurt the self-confidence of 
> the next person, anyways don't worry about it.

Just calling it as I see it.

> There is a lot going on in the space.  That said 
> this is still the attitude "there's 80,000 
> channels and nothing's on, turn it off."

Babble.

> About amateur and citizen radio, yes it was 
> still a requirement to know Morse and CB.

More babble; CB has nothing to do with amateur radio.

> None of these "studies" prove "no harm", only 
> their claim "we don't know".

Wrong again, kook.

> Putting the radio in the bin A or B, and 
> seeing those hamsters and mice die, is the 
> only random factor in the experiment.

More kook babble.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-23 08:52 -0500
  Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-23 18:09 +0000
  Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-10-24 21:50 -0500
  Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-10-24 20:02 -0700
    Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 08:39 -0700
      Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 11:12 -0500
        Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 09:46 -0700
      Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-26 17:17 +0000
        Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 13:16 -0500
          Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-26 18:51 +0000
        Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 11:20 -0700
          Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-26 18:56 +0000
            Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 12:03 -0700
              Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-26 19:19 +0000
            Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 14:11 -0500
        Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 11:58 -0700
          Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-26 19:07 +0000
            Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 14:27 -0500
            Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 12:35 -0700
              Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-26 20:08 +0000
                Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 13:32 -0700
                Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-26 20:52 +0000
                Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 15:15 -0700
                Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-26 22:19 +0000
    Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 11:09 -0500
      Re: The FCC Lays the Foundation for Ultra-Fast 5G Wireless "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 09:32 -0700

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