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| Date | 2016-01-30 05:17 -0800 |
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| Subject | Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? |
| From | Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> |
On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 4:49:57 AM UTC-7, Henry Wilson wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 14:41:20 -0800, Gary Harnagel wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 29, 2016 at 12:48:33 PM UTC-7, Henry Wilson wrote: > > > > > > Direct OWLS experiments were not possible when those papers were written. > > > > They are still not because you have no way to synchronize the clocks > > without making assumptions about the synchronization mechanism. No response from "Wilson" on this very critical point. > > > Not at all. None of the above is a direct experiment. They can all be > > > easily fiddled to produce any desired answer. > > > > And that is exactly the case for "Henry's" variable star nonsense. No response from "Wilson" on this very critical point. > > > Interference methods are full of assumptions and cannot be called > > > direct either. Don't you know what direct means? It means sending > > > light pulses from differently moving sources and measuring their speeds > > > with two clocks. > > > That can now be done...and in empty space. > > > > SO how are the clocks synchronized? No response from "Wilson" on this very critical point. > > > To prove Einstein wrong, by DIRECT OWLS COMPARISON, the clocks do not > > > even have to be synched. In fact one doesn't even need a clock...just > > > an oscilloscope. > > > > Really? ONE oscilloscope? I don't think so! > > You don't think...period... This is obviously a typical "Wilson" ad hom which he uses in place of a cogent argument. Obviously, I DO think, otherwise I wouldn't even be able to post a message. Obviously, I DO think because I realize that a 'scope is just like a clock and it can't communicate with the end point if it is at the starting point without wires (or a wireless signal) running from said end point to the oscilloscope, and that defeats the purpose for an OWLS experiment (i.e., it is a TWLS measurement). > You lack a required ingredient. Yes, I lack the ability to think illogically.
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Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-01-28 18:50 +0000
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-28 17:48 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-29 15:05 +1100
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-28 21:11 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-29 16:15 +1100
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-28 21:20 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-28 21:23 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-28 21:27 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-28 21:29 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-29 16:33 +1100
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-29 20:57 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-30 22:10 +1100
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-30 20:31 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-01-29 11:30 +0100
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-01-29 07:06 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-01-29 19:48 +0000
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-29 14:41 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-01-30 11:49 +0000
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-30 05:17 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Polikwaptiwa <polikw@polikwamail.org> - 2016-01-30 15:34 +0000
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-30 20:43 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-06 16:52 +0000
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-06 09:53 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-07 15:41 +0000
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-07 10:26 -0600
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? ˌsōlər ˈpleksəs <solar@plexus.org> - 2016-02-07 20:04 +0000
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-08 08:19 +1100
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-08 20:35 +0100
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-11 09:09 +1100
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-07 08:40 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-08 08:03 +1100
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-07 18:49 -0600
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-07 17:41 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-08 09:02 -0600
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Καλυψώ <calipso214@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-08 15:39 +0000
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-08 10:00 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-10 09:26 +1100
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-09 16:49 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-09 21:47 -0600
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-09 20:04 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-09 20:13 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-10 04:31 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 16:59 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 17:38 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 17:50 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 17:57 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 19:12 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 19:35 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 19:38 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-12 04:43 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 17:58 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 18:01 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-11 08:37 +1100
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-10 14:24 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-01-30 18:26 -0600
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Harumi Kazuko <harumik@starwarsmail.org> - 2016-01-31 00:50 +0000
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-30 20:53 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-31 05:22 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-31 19:58 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-31 20:03 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-01 05:51 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-02 19:51 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-02 20:17 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-02 19:02 -0800
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-01-30 10:17 +0100
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-01-30 11:52 +0000
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Polikwaptiwa <polikw@polikwamail.org> - 2016-01-30 16:26 +0000
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-01-30 21:07 +0100
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-01 09:58 +0100
Re: Why Are Direct OWLS Experiment Using a Moving Source Not Being Performed? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-01-30 17:53 -0600
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