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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-11, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers |
| Organization | Southern Nevada Institute of Technology |
| References | <6a806759$0$20$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <11607ch$1d7dv$10@dont-email.me> <6a83a5ce$0$24$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <1160ftm$1g1j0$2@dont-email.me> |
| Date | 2026-08-18 02:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6a83c69e$0$25$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> (permalink) |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On Aug 17, 2026 at 7:27:03 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote <1160ftm$1g1j0$2@dont-email.me>: > On 18 Aug 2026 00:22:38 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote: > >> On Aug 17, 2026 at 5:01:22 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote >> <11607ch$1d7dv$10@dont-email.me>: >> >>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 11:47:21 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: >>> >>>> It's not necessary on macOS as it's natively unix. >>> >>> And yet Apple found it necessary to put Linux on macOS, >> >> No. They did not. > > You don’t know that Apple have put their imprimatur on an official way > to run a full-fat Linux kernel under macOS? It is not necessary for macOS. It runs on Darwin. > >> It is hardly common on macOS. The OS runs on Darwin. You can >> layer Linux above that if you want. > > How about a bag on the side? That’s how Apple have done it. Seems the > “Darwin” kernel (or is that “XNU”, as in “XNU’s Not UNIX”? Hard to > keep track of whether this Apple “UNIX” is actually still claiming to > be “UNIX” these days) isn’t good enough to actually emulate a proper > UNIX-style OS like Linux. I do not share your concerns / confusion. > But don’t feel bad: Microsoft’s NT kernel turned out to be deficient > in the same way, too. Again, not sure why you think using Linux is a deficiency. Seems like a good thing to me. >> But say you are right and Apple somehow moved to using Linux as a >> necessary part. So? That is what is great about open source -- >> anyone can use it. > > Anyone can take from it. You want people to celebrate you for doing > that? I think open source is a good thing. > > Giving something back is a different matter altogether. Apple gives plenty back, but part of the open source model is you do not have to. What do you give back? -- It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-16 03:09 -0400
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-16 00:06 +0000
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Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 11:47 +0000
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 00:01 +0000
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 00:22 +0000
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 02:27 +0000
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 02:42 +0000
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 02:55 +0000
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 03:13 +0000
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 07:14 +0000
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 17:52 +0000
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-19 07:08 +0000
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Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 23:24 -0400
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 23:22 -0400
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-18 03:50 -0400
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 23:13 +0000
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 17:53 +0000
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 14:07 -0400
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Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-19 13:26 -0400
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-19 23:33 +0000
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:46 -0400
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-20 06:59 +0000
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 15:24 +0000
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-19 23:37 +0000
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-20 02:36 -0400
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-20 07:29 +0000
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-20 04:45 -0400
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 17:48 +0000
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-08-19 20:01 +0200
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Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-08-19 20:36 +0200
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 21:02 +0000
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-19 23:38 +0000
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Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-08-16 08:18 -0400
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-16 18:12 -0700
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-16 22:00 -0400
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-16 20:38 -0700
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-16 21:18 -0400
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-16 18:23 -0700
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-16 22:58 -0400
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-16 21:27 -0700
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-15 21:14 -0400
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-16 04:33 -0400
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-08-16 16:57 -0400
Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-16 18:14 -0700
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Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-15 21:16 -0400
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