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| From | "HenHanna" <HenHanna@Posting.from.CsiPh> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.usage.english, sci.lang, rec.puzzles |
| Subject | Re: "Joan of Arc" brand of canned beans, why? |
| Date | 2026-06-30 23:53 +0000 |
| Organization | csiph.com Internet News Service |
| Message-ID | <6a445706.6d8845bedcdf7585@csiph.com> (permalink) |
| References | <vfongmx7k5.ln2@news.ducksburg.com> <6a3962c4.43172b1319bb7bf3@csiph.com> |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
> * The Concept: During the late 19th century, American companies
> frequently named products after heroic, romanticized, or well-known
> historical figures to imply strength, purity, and premium quality.
Is this still common ? -- Cf. Nike name.
The name Nike fundamentally translates to "victory" or "conquest".
It originates from ancient Greece, where Nike was the revered winged
goddess of victory in both war and athletic competitions.
"HenHanna" <HenHanna@Posting.from.CsiPh> wrote:
> Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> wrote:
> > From Patti Smith's _Woolgathering_:
> >
> > I fired up a pan of Joan of Arc beans; poured olive oil over some
> > shredded lettuce and opened a bottle of Gatorade. I was hungry so I
> > stood as I ate, then scraped my plate and left it in the sink.
> >
> > I assumed this was a recipe I hadn't heard of, so I googled it, & I
> > was surprised to find that it's a brand of canned beans.
> >
> > <https://bgfoods.com/brands/joan-of-arc/products/>
> >
> > It seems like an odd trade name, but I can't find any explanation of
> > it on the website. According to Wikipedia, the current owner bought
> > the brand from Pillsbury in 1999.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%26G_Foods
> >
> >
> > --
> > You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the
> > freedom it gives its assimilated conformists. ---Abbie Hoffman
>
>
>
> (Why did nobody respond ?) --- nice Ling puzzle!
>
>
> 1. The Apostrophe Mistake --- is interesting, like Apron, Umpire....
>
>
> 2. her original surname was Darc, which reminds me of porn-star(s)
> with the surname Dark.
>
>
>
>
>
> The Joan of Arc canned bean brand takes its name directly from the
> famous 15th-century French heroine and Catholic saint, [Jeanne d'Arc]().
> [1, 2, 3, 4]
>
>
> ## Brand Origins
>
> * The Cannery: The brand originated in 1895 under the Illinois
> Canning Company located in Hoopeston, Illinois. [5, 6, 7]
>
> * The Concept: During the late 19th century, American companies
> frequently named products after heroic, romanticized, or well-known
> historical figures to imply strength, purity, and premium quality. The
> company formally incorporated the Joan of Arc name in 1877 for its
> general canning lines and later launched its successful national line of
> red kidney beans and sweet corn under the label. [5, 7, 8, 9]
>
> * The Modern Hook: Today, the brand is owned by [B&G Foods]
>
> (https://bgfoods.com/brands/joan-of-arc/products/). Marketing materials
> heavily lean into the name by describing the legumes as "valiant"
> kitchen sidekicks that "save the day" or "transform a meal." [10, 11]
>
>
>
> ## Origin of the Historical Figure's Name
>
>
> While the bean brand was named after the saint, the historical name Joan
> of Arc itself is actually an Anglicized translation error: [12, 13, 14,
> 15]
>
> * Jehanne Darc: In 15th-century France, she was known as Jehanne
> (or Jeannette), and her father’s surname was written as Darc (or
> Tarc). [1, 2, 16]
>
> * The Apostrophe Mistake: Centuries later, French historians mistakenly
> assumed Darc meant "from Arc" and added an apostrophe to make it d'Arc.
> Joan was actually born in Domrémy, not a place called Arc. [2, 13, 16]
>
> * The English Translation: English writers translated Jehanne to Joan
> and kept the literal translation of d'Arc as of Arc. During her actual
> lifetime, she simply called herself Jehanne la Pucelle ("Joan the
> Maid"). [2, 12, 13, 16]
>
> If you are looking for specific information, would you like to know more
> about the history of the Hoopeston, Illinois cannery, or are you looking
> for recipes using these specific beans? [5, 7, 17]
>
> [1]
> [https://en.wikipedia.org](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_of_Arc)
> [2]
> [https://en.wikipedia.org](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Joan_of_Arc)
> [3]
> [https://en.wiktionary.org](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Joan_of_Arc)
> [4]
> [https://www.gettyimages.com](https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/joan-of-arc-1412-1431-aka-jeanne-darc-or-jeanne-la-pucelle-news-photo/113627903)
> [5]
> [https://fishergenes.com](https://fishergenes.com/showmedia.php?mediaID=3856)
> [6]
> [https://www.amazon.com](https://www.amazon.com/Joan-Arc-Spicy-Chili-Beans/dp/B01M2C3AKF)
> [7]
> [https://www.prnewswire.com](https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/teasdale-quality-foods-acquires-hoopeston-foods-168814426.html)
> [8] [https://cityofhoopeston.com](https://cityofhoopeston.com/history/)
> [9] [https://www.ebay.com](https://www.ebay.com/itm/157095664980)
> [10]
> [https://bgfoods.com](https://bgfoods.com/brands/joan-of-arc/products/)
> [11]
> [https://www.amazon.com](https://www.amazon.com/Joan-Light-Kidney-Beans-Ounce/dp/B0029JYP6A)
> [12]
> [https://www.maidofheaven.com](http://www.maidofheaven.com/joanofarc_jeannedarc_jehannedarc.asp)
> [13]
> [https://www.quora.com](https://www.quora.com/Why-do-English-people-call-Jann-dArc-Joan-of-Arc)
> [14]
> [https://en.wikipedia.org](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Joan_of_Arc)
> [15]
> [https://www.reddit.com](https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryMemes/comments/1b1jfnf/joan_of_arc_had_a_rabbit_hole_of_a_name/)
> [16]
> [https://www.history.com](https://www.history.com/articles/7-surprising-facts-about-joan-of-arc)
> [17]
> [https://bgfoods.com](https://bgfoods.com/brands/joan-of-arc/product/great-northern-beans/)
>
>
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"Joan of Arc" brand of canned beans, why? Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-06-22 14:04 +0100
Re: "Joan of Arc" brand of canned beans, why? "HenHanna" <HenHanna@Posting.from.CsiPh> - 2026-06-22 16:28 +0000
Re: "Joan of Arc" brand of canned beans, why? "HenHanna" <HenHanna@Posting.from.CsiPh> - 2026-06-30 23:53 +0000
Re: "Joan of Arc" brand of canned beans, why? Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-06-23 09:44 +1200
Re: "Joan of Arc" brand of canned beans, why? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-06-23 09:35 +1000
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