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Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin

Date 2026-06-23 07:17 -0400
Subject Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
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From CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
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On 2026-06-23 4:52 a.m., Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-06-22 22:46, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> On 2026-06-22 10:21 a.m., Paul wrote:
>>> On Mon, 6/22/2026 8:38 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>
>>>> One thing I can't stand is how Windows automatically encrypts your 
>>>> installation with Bitlocker.
>>>> It's especially annoying when you've jumped through the necessary 
>>>> hoops to ensure that you will
>>>> be using hardware encryption. You first have to decrypt, configure 
>>>> Windows to only use
>>>> hardware encryption and then encrypt again.
>>>
>>> At install time, there may be a tick box in Rufus to stop that behavior.
>>
>> There is. Unfortunately, I didn't have a Rufus USB installer in my 
>> hands at that time and had to use a USB installer created by 
>> MediaCreationTool.
>>> *******
>>>
>>> That's not going to help you if you just bought a machine and
>>> are going through OOBE. In which case, you do
>>>
>>>     manage-bde -status
>>>
>>> after the machine is yours to use, and you can arrange to reverse
>>> the encryption they have used.
>>
>> Already done. I've enabled hardware encryption several times on my PC 
>> laptop and even wrote down the exact sequence for anyone else who 
>> would want to do it (with a storage device that supports OPAL 
>> encryption). Anyone who claims that hardware encryption doesn't 
>> provide any noticeable performance benefits over software encryption 
>> is a serious liar.
>>
> 
> Caveat could be that such a disk can not be decrypted in an external 
> caddy or another computer, if the key is a combination of the password 
> the user enters + something from the bios. This may be ok, or not 
> (recovery operation, replacement of broken hardware, etc).

When the PC laptop inevitably dies (it's already five-years-old), the 
NVMe will be transferred into such a caddy to test. I would imagine that 
it would still be possible to hardware encrypt it as an external device, 
as long as I secure erase the thing first. At the same time, I wonder 
what the point of an external device using hardware encryption would be 
since the performance drawbacks of software encryption won't matter as 
much. After all, sequential writes to the disk are just as fast 
whichever way you go, only random writes and reads are impacted.

-- 
CrudeSausage
M4 MacBook Air

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OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin prompts CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-20 08:15 -0400
  Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin prompts Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-20 09:33 -0400
    Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-20 10:51 -0400
      Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-21 01:32 -0400
        Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-22 08:47 -0400
          Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-22 10:16 -0400
            Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-22 16:42 -0400
        Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-24 01:28 +0000
    Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin  prompts vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-06-20 14:53 +0000
      Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin prompts 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-06-20 20:07 +0200
        Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-20 14:23 -0400
        Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin prompts Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-20 14:26 -0400
        Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin prompts FF <fflud@linux.rocks> - 2026-06-20 19:11 +0000
        Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin  prompts vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-06-20 21:52 +0000
    Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin prompts Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-06-20 18:05 +0000
      Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin prompts CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-20 14:22 -0400
        Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin prompts Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-06-20 18:32 +0000
          Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin prompts "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 15:02 -0400
        Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin prompts chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-20 16:54 -0500
          Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin prompts Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-06-20 22:44 +0000
            Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin prompts malone <malone@nospam.net.nz> - 2026-06-21 14:53 +1200
            Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin prompts CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-22 08:38 -0400
              Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin prompts Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-22 10:21 -0400
                Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-22 16:46 -0400
                Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 10:52 +0200
                Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-23 07:17 -0400
                Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 14:19 +0200
                Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-23 12:26 -0400
          Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin prompts CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-20 20:18 -0400
            Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin prompts Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-21 09:01 -0400
              Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-22 08:48 -0400
      Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin prompts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-06-21 19:38 +0000
        Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin prompts Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-06-22 00:48 +0000
        Re: OT: Microsoft: June 2026 Windows updates break Recycle Bin prompts Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-22 17:55 +1000

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