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| Date | 2026-05-23 12:32 -0600 |
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| Subject | Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy |
| Newsgroups | alt.global-warming, comp.os.linux.advocacy, or.politics, sci.environment, talk.politics.guns |
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| From | zendejo <zd@no.here> |
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On 5/23/26 12:14 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote: > It really is a shame. No, cRudey. https://rogerpielkejr.substack.com/p/rcp85-is-officially-dead The international committee responsible for the official scenarios that feed into climate modeling that are the basis for most projective climate research and the assessments of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has just published the next generation of climate scenarios. Big news: The new framework has eliminated the most extreme scenarios that have dominated climate research over much of the past several decades — specifically, RCP8.5, SSP5-8.5, and SSP3-7.0. This is an absolutely huge development in climate science which will have lasting impacts across research and policy. The future is not what it used to be. Today’s post commends the researchers who have brought climate scenarios more in line with current understandings, but also raises some significant continuing issues with the scenarios. Let’s get started . . . The new scenarios come from the Coupled Model Intercomparison Project (CMIP) — a project of the World Climate Research Programme (WCRP), co-sponsored by the World Meteorological Organization, the International Science Council, and UNESCO’s Intergovernmental Oceanographic Commission. Under CMIP, now in its seventh iteration, sits another little-known committee with responsibility for developing the scenarios necessary for earth system models to project future climate.1 That committee — called ScenarioMIP — just published the new scenario framework that will underpin the IPCC’s Seventh Assessment Report (AR7) and much of the research that it will draw upon. In a paper released earlier this month, Van Vuuren et al. (VVetal26) introduce a new set of seven scenarios. The authors write of the obsolete high end emissions scenarios (emphasis added): “For the 21st century, this range will be smaller than assessed before: on the high-end of the range, the CMIP6 high emission levels (quantified by SSP5-8.5) have become implausible, based on trends in the costs of renewables, the emergence of climate policy and recent emission trends.” Read that again — The high end scenarios are Implausible.2 I disagree that the implausibility of the high-end scenarios resulted from the falling costs of renewables or the emergence of climate policy, but that is a debate for another day. What matters today is that the group with official responsibility for developing climate scenarios for the IPCC and broader research community has now admitted that the scenarios that have dominated climate research, assessment, and policy during the past two cycles of the IPCC assessment process are implausible: They describe impossible futures. Tens of thousands of research papers have been — and continue to be — published using these scenarios, a similar number of media headlines have amplified their findings, and governments and international organization have built these implausible scenarios into policy and regulation. We now know that all of this is built on a foundation of sand. What changed The new CMIP7 ScenarioMIP framework offers seven scenarios spanning a range from “VERY LOW” through “HIGH.” The current naming convention drops the radiative-forcing target labels of the SSP era — there is no “8.5” scenario, and no “7.0” scenario, but as I’ll show below, each scenario has a radiative forcing level in 2100. I ran the available new scenarios (HIGH, MEDIUM, LOW, and VERY LOW) through the FaIR calibrated and constrained ensemble that Sanderson and Smith (2025) used to characterize the CMIP7 set (FaIR v. 2.2.0 as described in their README file). I then ran each of the five tier-1 SSPs through the same emulator with identical parameters to ensure that the results are apples-to-apples. The full methodology, data, and code is in the appendix to this post. The headline results follow. CO₂ emissions: fossil fuels and industry, 2000–2100 The chart above shows fossil-fuel and industry CO₂ emissions for four CMIP7 scenarios alongside the five tier-1 SSPs and the two main reference scenarios from the 2025 IEA World Energy Outlook. Note the massive gap between the new HIGH and SSP5-8.5. The new HIGH reaches 71 Gt CO₂/yr in 2100 — far below SSP5-8.5 at 128 Gt in 2100. Nothing in the CMIP7 set comes close to SSP5-8.5. The new HIGH also sits below SSP3-7.0 by about 9% in terms of cumulative emissions to 2100. Note also the gap between MEDIUM (solid yellow) and SSP2-4.5 (dashed yellow), which I’ll return to below. Both of the most recent IEA near term scenarios — which run to 2050 — fall below MEDIUM and SSP2-4.5. The table below compares the CMIP7 scenarios to their closest AR6 analogues, showing that the overall range has constricted. The higher scenarios have come down and the lower scenarios have come up — except VERY LOW, which moved down. 2100 effective radiative forcing and end-of-century temperature The table below lists AR6 and CMIP7 scenarios from highest to lowest 2100 radiative forcing. The middle column shows the average global temperature change from an 1850-1900 baseline, under the climate emulator used by CMIP7. The right column shows the average temperature change for the SSPs as projected by the IPCC AR6. See Methods appendix for details. Interestingly, the projected 2080-2100 temperatures of the SSPs decreased from their AR6 values based solely on recent updates to the FaIR climate emulator.3 These changes resulted primarily from the updating of emissions trajectories from 2014 (used in AR6) to 2023 (used by CMIP7). The more moderate emissions trajectories resulted in lower projected end-of-century temperature increases. The new CMIP7 HIGH is 0.9°C cooler than SSP5-8.5 in apples-to-apples terms (and 1.4°C cooler versus IPCC AR6), and 0.2°C cooler than SSP3-7.0 (-0.6°C against IPCC AR6). The implausibility of upper-end legacy scenarios is now official. CMIP7 avoided repeating the past with SSP3-7.0 Last April I argued here at THB that the climate science community was on the brink of repeating the RCP8.5 mistake with SSP3-7.0 — which assumed a 2100 global population approaching 13 billion, well above any contemporary demographic projection and a five-fold expansion of global coal use. Neither assumption survives current understandings of demographics or energy systems. I don’t know if anyone in CMIP or ScenarioMIP reads THB4 — if not they should! — but regardless, they wisely chose not to adopt SSP3-7.0 as the new HIGH scenario. The new HIGH scenario sits at 6.7 W/m² in 2100 — below the SSP3 baseline 7.0 W/m² — with 9 percent less cumulative fossil CO₂ through 2100. As I’ll discuss below, this is progress; it is partial but real. But the new HIGH still sits well above the plausibility range that we identified in Pielke, Burgess, and Ritchie (2022). We found that of the >1,000 scenarios in the AR5 database, the plausible subset centered on a median of ~3.4 W/m² in 2100, with an upper end near 6 W/m². The new HIGH scenario is well above that upper end.
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Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-22 16:29 -0600
Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 22:42 +0000
Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 09:14 -0600
Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 10:32 -0600
Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 16:37 +0000
Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 10:47 -0600
Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 16:55 +0000
Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 12:28 -0600
Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 18:53 +0000
Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 14:08 -0600
Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-24 01:05 +0000
Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Dietrich Von GassenHousen <Dietrich@ZyklonB.org> - 2026-05-24 01:58 +0000
Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-24 11:13 -0600
Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-24 17:51 +0000
Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-24 13:13 -0600
Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 11:00 -0600
Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 18:14 +0000
Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 12:32 -0600
Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 12:31 -0600
Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 10:41 -0600
Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 16:54 +0000
Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 12:27 -0600
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