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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

From Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Newsgroups alt.atheism, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.
Date 2015-06-19 06:31 -0500
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On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 20:13:27 +1000, Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:14:19 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 06:12:50 +1000, Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> wrote:
>
>>>I can easily prove there are no gods. All I want is an accurate definition of
>>>one first.
>>
>>The creator of the universe -  the appearance of something from nothing
>>appearing in nothingness when suddenly an infinitely small point of infinite
>>mass and energy appeared that exploded/expanded outward to form our current
>>visible universe of some 160 billion trillion miles in diameter..
>
>How did your god arrange for that to happen? And who made your god, idiot?

It doesn't even get that far.

The definition is totally unjustified, it doesn't describe it, simply
presumes it, treats it as an objective fact and assumes everybody
knows it.

Because that's what the definite article "the" does, linguistically.

He's trying to define it into existence.

The problem is that pretty well everything in Christianity is
self-referential without any way out of the loop, because its
definitions have no intersection with reality.

All the terminally dishonest theist has actually done, is define the
universe and add his hypothetical god to that.

When the intersection with reality which he hasn't demonstrated,
should be "that created the universe".

So we have "What creator of the universe?",

He could have justified it but that would have put it in a context
which undermines it.

The most accurate definitions parsimoniously describe it in terms of
which groups believe in it and what they believe, Eg from the Encarta
World Dictionary (print edition)...

   the being believed in monotheistic religions such as Judaism,
   Islam, and Christianity to be the all-powerful all-knowing creator
   of the universe, worshipped as the only god

In other words, to non- Christians, Jews and Muslims it is a BELIEF.

But it would mean his admitting it is only "real" inside his religion,
and how many theists can bring themselves to do that?

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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 14:56 -0500
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 00:36 +0000
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-10 12:10 +0200
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:00 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-10 18:56 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:48 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-12 04:19 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Sesiom <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-06-12 20:57 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. hhyapster@gmail.com - 2015-06-12 19:32 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:20 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-12 19:46 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 04:00 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-13 13:37 +0100
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 14:04 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:21 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-14 09:00 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-14 16:56 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-14 16:58 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-12 20:50 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 03:44 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-13 07:15 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-13 09:13 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 05:29 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-13 12:25 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 07:11 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 13:54 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:22 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 14:08 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 21:31 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-14 09:06 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 13:47 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:20 -0500
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                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 21:32 -0400
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                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-14 09:07 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-14 15:44 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-15 07:17 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-15 14:00 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-15 15:07 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-15 23:21 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-16 06:35 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-16 13:39 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-16 22:35 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-16 12:53 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-16 14:34 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-17 15:24 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-17 23:47 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Sesiom <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-06-17 19:27 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-18 19:17 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-18 21:42 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-18 15:12 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-19 06:29 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:43 -0500
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                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:57 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-20 08:05 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-20 20:23 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 15:14 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-21 14:41 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-21 22:03 +0000
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                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-21 22:05 +0000
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                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-21 22:07 +0000
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                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-20 07:33 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:56 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-20 11:58 -0500
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                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 13:21 +0200
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                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 15:17 -0500
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                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-20 09:00 +1000
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                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-16 18:48 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-17 19:27 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-17 14:33 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-17 23:41 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-17 23:00 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mattb. <Trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2015-06-17 23:03 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-18 02:35 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:02 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-18 11:23 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-17 15:17 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-17 19:28 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-18 06:12 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-17 22:36 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-17 15:42 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-18 22:43 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:21 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-19 20:10 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-19 13:39 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-20 06:57 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:24 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-21 09:14 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 14:58 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-22 09:27 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:15 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-19 19:31 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:27 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-20 20:16 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 14:59 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-21 21:59 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 13:55 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:30 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 17:05 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 15:00 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-22 19:38 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. G hitlug <dontmailme@illmail.you> - 2015-06-22 11:09 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-22 21:57 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:14 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-19 20:13 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-19 06:31 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-19 13:42 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-19 13:41 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-20 07:03 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:33 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-21 09:18 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 15:00 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-21 22:02 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 14:01 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:36 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-17 15:23 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-17 21:30 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:24 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-19 19:25 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 14:10 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:44 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-20 20:10 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 15:07 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-21 21:57 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-18 01:30 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:39 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 02:29 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-19 21:18 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:54 -0500
                Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-20 00:23 -0400
                Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-20 06:24 -0400
                Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. Jane@home.. - 2015-06-20 21:05 +1000
                Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-20 07:31 -0400
                Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-06-20 05:50 -0700
                Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-20 09:41 -0400
                Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. Jane@home.. - 2015-06-21 09:46 +1000
                Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-21 07:05 -0400
                Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-20 05:24 -0700
                Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-20 08:29 -0400
                Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-20 12:07 -0400
                Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-06-22 07:56 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:51 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 21:18 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 15:12 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-22 22:19 +0200

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