Re: Green?

From	Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
Newsgroups	uk.tech.digital-tv
Subject	Re: Green?
Date	2026-09-15 09:27 +0100
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Message-ID	<5d189e0087bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> (permalink)
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In article <1189mtv$1t36k$1@dont-email.me>,
   Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
> On 2026-09-14 19:07, Bob Latham wrote:
> > In article <1188e76$1ckr7$1@dont-email.me>,
> >     Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> >> NOT NECESSARILY TRUE!  The purpose of the plug fuse is to protect
> >> everything beyond it, which includes the extension cable that NY
> >> built as he described.
> > 
> > I almost agree. The single purpose of the fuse in a plug is to
> > protect the cable that follows it, NOT the appliance. If the
> > appliance needs protection the manufacturer should add that to
> > the appliance.

> No, the purpose of the plug fuse is as I stated, to protect
> EVERYTHING that lies beyond it:

> <https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+the+purpose+of+the+fuse+in+an+english+mains+plug>

> If manufacturers wish to provide additional protection to any given
> appliance to prevent avoidable damage to sensitive and perhaps
> expensive equipment, potentially including damage caused by the
> user supplying the wrong plug fuse, then of course that is their
> choice.  AFAIAA, although there may be specific types of appliance
> where regulations stipulate some sort of extra protection,
> generally speaking it isn't required by law.  For example, in a
> bedside lamp, you don't find an additional fuse between the cable
> from the plug and the actual light bulb.

Until recent years, the vast majority of plug fuses in UK homes were
13amp because most people are too ignorant to know it's wrong. My
wife worked in an office where the considered wisdom was that 13 amp
were the best quality, I kid you not. 

A 13amp fuse will do nothing to protect the vast majority of items
people plug in.

Now have it your own way, I've learnt my lesson about having any
conversation with you. I should have known better yesterday.

As for your link, you can find links to back up any argument even
that CO2 @ 0.042% of the atmosphere (1 molecule in 23,000) controls
the climate. Or that you can change sex, or that open borders is a
good idea, etc. etc.

In an age of ideology, objective truth, reason and reality bite the
dust. 

Triggered?

Bob.

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Green? JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-09-04 08:24 +0100
  Re: Green? Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-04 08:09 +0000
    Re: Green? Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-04 10:52 +0100
    Re: Green? JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-09-04 11:32 +0100
  Re: Green? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-09-04 10:30 +0100
    Re: Green? JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-09-04 11:31 +0100
      Re: Green? David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-09-04 12:18 +0100
        Re: Green? JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-09-04 23:09 +0100
          Re: Green? alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-05 10:00 +0100
        Re: Green? Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-05 07:50 +0100
      Re: Green? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-05 09:37 +0100
        Re: Green? JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-09-05 20:55 +0100
          Re: Green? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-08 13:51 +0100
            Re: Green? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-09-08 14:22 +0100
              Re: Green? Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2026-09-08 15:00 +0100
                Re: Green? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-08 19:12 +0100
      Re: Green? alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-05 09:57 +0100
    Re: Green? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-04 11:46 +0100
      Re: Green? alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-05 10:02 +0100
    Re: Green? David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-09-04 12:11 +0100
      Re: Green? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-09-04 13:26 +0100
      Re: Green? JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-09-04 23:06 +0100
        Re: Green? David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-09-05 00:02 +0100
          Re: Green? Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-05 06:15 +0000
            Re: Green? JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-09-05 08:15 +0100
            Re: Green? David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-09-05 09:19 +0100
          Re: Green? alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-05 10:12 +0100
          Re: Green? John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-09-06 20:40 +0100
            Re: Green? Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-07 09:00 +0100
              Re: Green? Dave W <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> - 2026-09-07 12:12 +0100
                Re: Green? Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-08 08:54 +0100
                Re: Green? Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-09-08 09:04 +0100
                Re: Green? Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-08 08:13 +0000
                Re: Green? JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-09-08 10:10 +0100
                Re: Green? NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-13 21:28 +0100
                Re: Green? Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> - 2026-09-14 09:46 +0100
                Re: Green? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-09-14 10:19 +0100
                Re: Green? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-09-14 11:02 +0100
                Re: Green? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-09-14 19:07 +0100
                Re: Green? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-09-14 21:54 +0100
                Re: Green? Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-15 05:34 +0000
                Re: Green? Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-15 09:38 +0100
                Re: Green? Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-15 08:48 +0000
                Re: Green? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-15 09:54 +0100
                Re: Green? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-09-15 09:37 +0100
                Re: Green? Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-15 09:02 +0000
                Re: Green? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-09-15 09:27 +0100
                Re: Green? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-09-15 10:36 +0100
                Re: Green? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-09-15 11:03 +0100
                Re: Green? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-09-15 11:28 +0100
                Re: Green? JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-09-08 10:02 +0100
                Re: Green? Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-08 20:14 +0100
                Re: Green? Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> - 2026-09-12 00:33 +0100
                Re: Green? Paul Ratcliffe <abuse@orac12.clara34.co56.uk78> - 2026-09-18 11:29 +0000
              Re: Green? John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-09-08 18:47 +0100
        Re: Green? alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-05 10:05 +0100
          Re: Green? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-05 11:21 +0100
    Re: Green? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-09-04 12:12 +0100
      Re: Green? Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2026-09-04 18:31 +0100
    Re: Green? Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> - 2026-09-08 18:48 +0100

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