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Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime.

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, alt.astronomy
Subject Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime.
Date 2018-08-28 00:21 -0700
Organization Netfront http://www.netfront.net/
Message-ID <5B84F7E6.5DEB@ix.netcom.com> (permalink)
References (6 earlier) <Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.12--3.59pm.Seattle.2018> <pkqf25$d09$1@dont-email.me> <5B72587D.34AD@ix.netcom.com> <5B7279BE.4EF0@ix.netcom.com> <5B728683.21BE@ix.netcom.com>

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The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 8/12/2018 3:59 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> > > > >>> creation out of nothing.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Where did the matter come from?
> > > > >> What state was it in before the "big-bang"?
> > > > >
> > > > > Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime.
> > > > > At the start, there was "no entropy" ("no time, no space"), just "eXergy"
> > > > > ( a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ).
> > > > >
> > > > > Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy,
> > > > > leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
> > > > > but none of the eXergy.  Gravity is residual eXergy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Everything decays, even gravity; hence the arrow of time.
> > > > >
> > > > > Einstein's Cosmological Constant ( 1.11 * 10^−52 / Meters^2 ) tells us
> > > > > that outer space is growing EXPONENTIALLY, gravity is dying off;
> > > > > -- i.e. the "Heat Death" predicted by Lord Kelvin, 1852,
> > > > >     is the most likley outcome.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Afaict, even my little idea wrt "our universe is contained within a
> > > > black hole,  residing in our parent universe" is a chicken-and-egg
> > > > problem in and of itself. Where did the first black hole originate from?
> > >
> > > The first black hole originated from moments After the big bang.
> > >
> > > Before the big bang heat death didn't exist, so black holes didn't exist.
> > >
> > > In other words, before the big bang stars didn't die.
> > >
> > > The Starmaker
> >
> > I mean...i thought i explained all this already..
> >
> > the purpose of a black hole is too consume stars and galaxies for the purpose of keeping a balance universe.
> >
> > In other words, just the right amount of stars.
> >
> > The Starmaker
> >
> > I mean, before the big bang there were simply too many stars.
> >
> > Too many stars is what caused the big bang.
> >
> > i even already provided an illustration:
> > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber's_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif
> >
> > during the actual explosion...new laws of physics were created.
> >
> > for example, before the big bang galaxies didn't exist.
> >
> > Do you need a list?
> 
> To put it simply, the universe was ...different.
> 
> It used to be different.
> 
> And the way it is today is because
> 
> it didn't work very well before..
> 
> So new laws of physics had to be made.
> 
> Before, when the universe was different...stars didn't die.
> 
> They didn't burn out.
> 
> Which caused a problem..
> 
> with so many new stars being born...
> 
> it simply ran out of space.
> 
> Now, you have plenty of space.
> 
> The question is, why is it so hard for yous to understand this?



maybe it's because yous are confined to complex systems like math and physics...

whereas I make observations of simplified systems to make predicitions.


Here is a simplified system:

http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg


there simply you can observe the before and after the big bang at the sametime.

the red shooting stars is the big bang

the green steady state stars is your window to before the big bang.


There you have it
http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg


math and physics woun't help you...observations of simplified systems is the key to the future!



Throw your math and physics books in the garbage can...


The Starmaker

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Deep Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-22 14:26 -0700
  Re: Deep Thought Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-23 16:43 +0200
    Re: Deep Thought Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 18:08 +0200
      Re: Deep Thought "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-23 21:45 -0700
        Re: Deep Thought Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-24 11:42 +0200
          Re: Deep Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-24 11:21 -0700
          Re: Deep Thought "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-24 16:52 -0700
            Re: Deep Thought Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-25 22:31 +0200
              Re: Deep Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-25 23:36 -0700
                Re: Deep Thought benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 10:00 -0400
                Re: Deep Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-26 11:23 -0700
                Re: Deep Thought benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 19:45 -0400
              Re: Deep Thought "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-25 23:56 -0700
                Re: Deep Thought "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-26 00:00 -0700
                Re: Deep Thought Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-07-27 17:01 +1000
                Re: Deep Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-27 10:38 -0700
                Re: Deep Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-28 10:38 -0700
                Re: Deep Thought "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-27 14:29 -0700
                Re: Deep Thought Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-28 12:00 +0200
                Re: Deep Thought Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-28 14:44 +0200
                Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-08-12 15:59 -0700
                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-12 16:15 -0700
                Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-08-12 16:30 -0700
                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-13 21:20 -0700
                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-13 23:42 -0700
                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-14 00:36 -0700
                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-28 00:21 -0700
                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-28 00:56 -0700
                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-08-28 19:23 +1000
                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-29 00:01 -0700
                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-28 23:58 -0700
                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-29 11:09 -0700
                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-29 20:24 +0200
                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-29 13:39 -0700
                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-30 03:43 +0200
                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-29 20:43 -0700
                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-31 00:52 +0200
                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-31 09:48 -0700
                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-31 22:46 -0700
                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-01 13:50 +0200
                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-09-01 09:37 -0700
                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-29 18:09 -0700
                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-30 04:36 +0200
        Re: Deep Thought Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-24 21:19 +0200
          Re: Deep Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-24 13:04 -0700
            Re: Deep Thought Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-25 03:36 +0200
              Re: Deep Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-24 22:44 -0700
  Re: Deep Thought benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 11:05 -0400
  Re: Deep Thought "C. Deifir" <cdf@dfr.net.inv> - 2018-07-23 21:18 +0100

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