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Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe

From Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Newsgroups comp.lang.php
Subject Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe
Date 2016-02-18 08:18 +0100
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R.Wieser schrieb am 2016-02-17 um 20:19:

> Arno,
> 
>> My point is, that an URL itself is just an URL
> 
> No, it isn't.   Its rather easy to combine the addres itself with some data
> into an URL, just as any run-of-the-mill HTTP can GET do.    You do not even
> need to know how to program or write HTML, you can do that in the adres bar
> of any browser.

And? It is then still just an URL.

>> and your reference to SQL injection in this context doesn't
>> make any sense at all.
> 
> Are you sure ?

Yes. Because without a database connection there is no "SQL injection"
at all.

> From the OP's first post:
> 
> [quote]
> All needed? Any not needed? Latest firefox strips out any .. entries
> before sending the URL but I am not sure that all earlier browsers would.
> [/quote]
> 
> AFAICS that means he will be receiving URLs from untrusted sources ...

And? I still don't see "database" which is in any case required to
produce a thing like "SQL injection".

And even if a database is involved - sanitizing values or using prepared
statements to avoid SQL injections is *alway* neccessary and not only
for values which are build based on URLs.

>> BTW: at least you should think about your way to quote posts.
> 
> Why ?  Whats *WRONG* with it.   And no, I do not consider anyones
> *preference* in this matter to be more important than mine.  Explain
> yourself and I will consider the arguments.  Thats all I can promise.

The fact that you leave nearly everything of the quoted post in place
even if you don't refer to the quoted text. It's also not useful to
quote the *whole* posting below your reply again since people read from
top to bottom and it's really confusing reading a reply first and then
the text to which the reply refers to. This is a bad habit coming from
e-mail clients using this "original message:" below the reply.

In addition: Signatures are never being quoted - that's why signatures
start with "-- " (look carefully and you will notice the space after the
"--"). This is the indication for properly working newsreaders where to
stop quoting at all.

> By the way: I quite dislike top, smack-in-the-middle and bottom posting
> alike, only to be topped by the ones where absolutily nothing is quoted (not
> even the name of the person who the response is directed towards).

That's why there a references and every newsreader is able to show you
which posts a reply refers to and show a threaded message list as well.

[...]
> So yes, I've been thinking about how I quote posts.

Thanks.



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PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 09:37 +0000
  Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-02-17 11:05 +0100
    Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 15:04 +0000
      Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-02-17 10:54 -0500
        Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 01:09 +0000
          Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-02-17 21:12 -0500
            Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 19:07 +0000
              Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-20 21:07 +0100
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 20:35 +0000
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-20 21:40 +0100
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 21:02 +0000
              Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe gordonb.lkcah@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2016-02-29 21:29 -0600
      Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-17 23:33 +0100
        Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 01:12 +0000
          Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-18 21:48 +0100
        Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-02-18 08:05 +0100
          Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-02-18 09:59 +0000
            Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 10:29 +0000
              Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-02-18 11:36 +0000
            Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-02-18 15:44 +0100
          Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-18 21:47 +0100
      Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-02-18 08:02 +0100
        Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 19:29 +0000
          Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-20 21:37 +0100
            Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 21:37 +0000
              Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-21 15:02 +0100
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 15:02 +0000
  Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-02-17 08:19 -0500
    Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-02-17 14:43 +0100
      Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-02-17 15:04 +0100
        Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-02-17 15:17 +0100
          Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-02-17 15:47 +0100
            Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-02-17 15:57 +0100
              Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-02-17 10:57 -0500
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-02-17 17:10 +0100
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-02-17 12:11 -0500
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-02-17 18:51 +0100
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-02-17 12:55 -0500
              Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-02-17 19:06 +0100
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-02-17 20:19 +0100
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-02-18 08:18 +0100
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-02-18 09:20 +0100
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-02-18 15:48 +0100
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-02-18 16:25 +0100
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-02-18 17:00 +0100
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-18 22:26 +0100
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-02-18 10:48 -0500
            Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2016-02-17 16:38 +0100
              Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-02-17 10:56 -0500
              Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-02-17 19:08 +0100
              Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-17 23:35 +0100
          Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-02-17 09:56 -0500
            Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-02-17 16:44 +0100
              Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-02-17 12:12 -0500
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-02-17 19:04 +0100
      Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-02-17 09:55 -0500
        Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-02-17 16:39 +0100
          Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-02-17 11:00 -0500
    Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 15:15 +0000
      Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-02-17 11:05 -0500
        Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 01:18 +0000
      Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-02-17 19:14 +0100
        Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 00:19 +0000
      Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-17 23:36 +0100
  Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-17 23:26 +0100
    Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 00:36 +0000
      Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-18 22:03 +0100
        Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 19:38 +0000
          Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-20 21:17 +0100
            Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 20:56 +0000
              Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-20 23:48 +0100
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 09:37 +0000
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-21 14:42 +0100
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 15:03 +0000
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-02-21 14:09 -0500
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 19:34 +0000
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-02-21 14:49 -0500
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 19:56 +0000
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-02-21 20:29 -0500
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 07:30 +0000
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-02-22 08:13 -0500
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 15:01 +0000
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-02-22 10:31 -0500
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-22 00:10 +0100
                Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 23:45 +0000
  Re: PHP processing steps to apply to a URL to make it safe pittendrigh <Sandy.Pittendrigh@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 05:23 -0700

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