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Re: Development Best Practices and C "nomenclature"

From James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Development Best Practices and C "nomenclature"
Date 2015-11-18 13:19 -0500
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On 11/18/2015 09:50 AM, David Brown wrote:
> On 18/11/15 00:45, James Kuyper wrote:
>> On 11/17/2015 06:07 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
...
>>> I thought all Perl programs were potential IOCCC entries...
>>
>> I often wondered where this stereotype comes from. Most of the perl
>> scripts I've seen are no worse than typical C or C++ programs in this
>> regard. I'm sure it's possible to obfuscate perl code at least as badly
>> as you can obfuscate C code, but serious professionals don't do that,
>> and there's nothing about perl that forces or even encourages you to
>> write such code.
>>
> 
> The reputation comes from perl scripts that are hacked together to do a
> single job.  Often this involves a horrendous regular expression or two.
>  The script makes sense at the time, with trial-and-error debugging of
> the regular expressions and the developer's notes on a scrap of paper.
> The problem comes when this throw-away script is re-used as part of a
> bigger program or a permanent feature in a system.
> 
> More serious perl code and larger programs will be as well-designed or
> badly-designed as for any other language.

That would explain it then - most of the perl code I have to deal with
is part of a production system that will typically execute the script
once every five minutes, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days per
year. "hacked together" doesn't even come close to being an accurate
description.
It does use regular expressions, but that's reasonable given the
context; if it were written in C, it would almost certainly have made
use of regex() - and the code would have been a lot more complicated.

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Array manipulation techniques "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 09:44 +0100
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              Development Best Practices and C "nomenclature" Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-11-16 12:15 -0500
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                Re: Development Best Practices and C "nomenclature" asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2015-11-16 10:51 -0800
                Re: Development Best Practices and C "nomenclature" "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 20:14 +0100
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                Re: Development Best Practices and C "nomenclature" raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-11-17 22:55 +0000
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                Re: Development Best Practices and C "nomenclature" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-11-18 15:50 +0100
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