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| Message-ID | <56478FA8.F05@ix.netcom.com> (permalink) |
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| Date | 2015-11-14 11:46 -0800 |
| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
| Newsgroups | alt.astronomy, rec.arts.sf.written, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: INFINITY |
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The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Ross A. Finlayson wrote: > > > > > > On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 9:47:05 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote: > > > > On 11/12/15 11:39 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > Where do you think the universe came from? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heisenberg's uncertainty principle > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heisenberg%27s_uncertainty_principle > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8FTr2qMutA > > > > > > > > Heisenberg's uncertainty principle tells us that it is > > > > impossible to simultaneously measure the position and > > > > momentum of a particle with arbitrary precision. In our > > > > everyday lives we virtually never come up against this > > > > limit, hence why it seems peculiar. In this experiment a > > > > laser is shone through a narrow slit onto a screen. As the > > > > slit is made narrower, the spot on the screen also becomes > > > > narrower. But at a certain point, the spot starts becoming > > > > wider. This is because the photons of light have been so > > > > localised at the slit that their horizontal momentum must > > > > become less well defined in order to satisfy Heisenberg's > > > > uncertainty principle. > > > > > > > > Quantum vacuum fluctuation (or Quantum Fluctuation for short) > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_fluctuation > > > > > > > > Quoting from the above Wikipedia page: > > > > > > > > "In quantum physics, a quantum vacuum fluctuation (or > > > > quantum fluctuation or vacuum fluctuation) is the temporary > > > > change in the amount of energy in a point in space, arising > > > > from Werner Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. > > > > > > > > "According to one formulation of the principle, energy and > > > > time can be related by the relation > > > > > > > > ∆E · ∆t ≥ h/4π > > > > > > > > "That means that conservation of energy can appear to be > > > > violated, but only for small times. This allows the creation > > > > of particle-antiparticle pairs of virtual particles. The > > > > effects of these particles are measurable, for example, in > > > > the effective charge of the electron, different from its > > > > "naked" charge. > > > > > > > > "In the modern view, energy is always conserved, but the > > > > eigenstates of the Hamiltonian (energy observable) are not > > > > the same as (i.e., the Hamiltonian doesn't commute with) the > > > > particle number operators. > > > > > > > > "Quantum fluctuations may have been very important in the > > > > origin of the structure of the universe: according to the > > > > model of inflation the ones that existed when inflation > > > > began were amplified and formed the seed of all current > > > > observed structure." > > > > > > > > Quoting from A USENET Posting by Steve Carlip (UC Davis): > > > > > > > > "CMB fluctuations give evidence for (though not proof of) > > > > inflation. > > > > > > > > "So far, I haven't said anything about where the initial > > > > density variations of the pre-recombination plasma came > > > > from. There are many possibilities. We know, at least, that > > > > they must be there -- even if we try to start with a > > > > perfectly smooth, unvarying plasma, the Heisenberg > > > > uncertainty principle tells us that there must be a minimum > > > > level of quantum fluctuations. > > > > > > > > ∆E · ∆t ≥ h/4π > > > > > > > > "Inflationary" models propose that the very early Universe > > > > -- before the time of primordial nucleosynthesis -- > > > > underwent a very rapid expansion. Such an expansion would > > > > smooth out/dilute any earlier inhomogeneities, leaving only > > > > the quantum fluctuations, which would be "stretched" in size > > > > by the rapidly expanding space. > > > > > > > > "Such models predict a special pattern of fluctuations. In > > > > particular, although any particular fluctuation is random, > > > > the average number at any particular scale is predictable. > > > > This pattern on initial variations, in turn, should show up > > > > in the details of the CMB variations. So far, observations > > > > match the predictions of inflation very well. Most people in > > > > the field don't consider this conclusive -- one can imagine > > > > other ways of getting a similar pattern of initial > > > > perturbations -- but it is suggestive." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated > > > > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics > > > > community, and physics-related social issues. > > > > > > How did the inflationary period attenuate? > > > > You talk about "inflationary" as if is real...it's just a fudge factor. > > > > It's used to add fudge to 'the big bang'. > > > > What i find strange is... > > > > that the majority of the > > 'scientific community' > > talk as > > believe that > > think that > > say that > > 'the big bang' happen. > > > > It's not even a Fact. > > > > The Big Bang is not a fact. > > > > That aside... > > > > I have a photograph > > that shows you what the big bang looked like > > a few seconds after it happen. > > > > You will see the big bang > > in a color photograph... > > and at the same time you > > can see what existed at the > > time of the big bang... > > what I call the stable stars...the green stars. > > > > The big bang stars are red shifted because > > you can see the big bang stars shooting in all > > directions at once...while the green stars remain stable > > because they existed before the big bang. > > > > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg > > > > The Starmaker > > So..looking at my photo of before and after the big bang...i figured out what caused the big bang. > > What caused the big bang was the acculmulation > of green stable stars. > > In other words, the green stars > simply gave birth to more green stars, > and more green stars, and more green stars, > and more green stars, and more green stars, > till there were so many green stars that > there was no more room. > > Can you imagine how hot it got? > > The green stars were so stable they didn't die...there was > an over-population of green stars. > > This photo of during the big bang...was differcult to produce.. > > but i do have the photo of the crowded green stars...i just didn't know why it was so crowded. > > I'll have to find time to produce that one of the crowded green stars. > > I'm sure you all like to see photographs of what caused the big bang. > > The Starmaker In other words... the green stars created ...Space. That is why you had the explosion of Space. Or, what yous call a big bang. In the process of this new space... the green stars turned blue. Or, white as you see it. I know that this is a level the 'scientific community' has not reached yet... so you won't find it in your wiki books. I give the 'scientific community' another thousand years to catch up to me. The Starmaker
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